Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
Are you telling me that it doesn't matter whether you vote Democrat or Republican, they're all a bunch of crooks!?
I don't see where I was saying that at all. My point is that if the Senate wants to stop the government in its tracks, they should do it for real, Roman senate style. None of this lift your little finger and indicate you're thinking about a filibuster.

Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
Are there still people that trust the government? If so, why?
I trust my local school system. I trust my local police. I trust the IRS to do a good-faith effort to read my returns correctly (even if they do mess up now and then). I trust that the majority of people go into government because they want to serve, just like soldiers. (Unlike soldiers, however, I also trust that most politicans and political hangers-on get corrupted over time.)

Anyway. My point was not in any way some sort of all-guvmint-is-evul Libertarian rant.