EB Unit Stats Tweaking - phalangites, hoplites, chariots, gaestae, etc - suggestions?

[Intranetusa]

Glad to see you're still alive Intra.

Also, can I use your mod in my mod?

Also, yes, I'm aware of the many bugs in the phalanx mod. Hopefully college will let me make some corrections.

~Jirisys ()

Thanks dude. :D
I've been playing Third Age Total War for MW2 so I've been neglecting RTW-EB tweaking lately... :/ How have you been?

Sure thing, I'll include a download link.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L39438KA

[jirisys]

Thanks dude. :D
I've been playing Third Age Total War for MW2 so I've been neglecting RTW-EB tweaking lately... :/ How have you been?

Sure thing, I'll include a download link.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L39438KA

I prefer to them by hand if you don't mind, since I have to make many versions (your mod+mod1, your mod+mod2, ad nauseam)

~Jirisys ()

[Intranetusa]

By hand? Do you mean post the actual text from the edu?

[jirisys]

By hand? Do you mean post the actual text from the edu?

No silly. I mean I go from unit to unit making the changes you mentioned in the OP, that way I can merge it with other EDU-altering mods.

~Jirisys ()

[danio43us67]

I would suggest making the Cretan archers, Rhodian slingers, Balearic slingers a tad more powerful to empasize their (historical) superiority. Also you might want to make the Scythians a tad more powerful as well.

And did you have a look at this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ords%29-in-1-2 ?

Also for the SPQR the inferiority of the hastati to the principes should be emphasized I think

And please can someone explain why the peltastai are just so damn powerful? Aren't they supposed to be a regular skirmish unit? Well they fight like regular infantry

[Intranetusa]

No silly. I mean I go from unit to unit making the changes you mentioned in the OP, that way I can merge it with other EDU-altering mods.
~Jirisys ()

Sure, go ahead. :D

I would suggest making the Cretan archers, Rhodian slingers, Balearic slingers a tad more powerful to empasize their (historical) superiority. Also you might want to make the Scythians a tad more powerful as well.
And did you have a look at this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ords%29-in-1-2 ?
Also for the SPQR the inferiority of the hastati to the principes should be emphasized I think
And please can someone explain why the peltastai are just so damn powerful? Aren't they supposed to be a regular skirmish unit? Well they fight like regular infantry

What missile stats do you suggest? As for hastati-principes, what do you suggest? I was thinking of increasing the cost of principes. But then again, I guess all Roman units are suppose to be cheap and spam-able?

As for Peltastai, I think Hellenic Heavy Peltastai are suppose to be tough and can serve as emergency line troops in a pinch. (they have good armor, a shield, a decent sword, etc) - but if you're talking about the
thorkati Peltastai with the falx-looking weapon, the weapon lethality is OPed & needs to be edited.

[danio43us67]

What missile stats do you suggest?

I would suggest +1/2 for Balearics +1 for Rhodians +1/2 for Cretans and maybe +1 for Scythians in missile attack. That would have to be balanced so it would have to be tested, also the cost of them should be considered as well.

As for Peltastai, I think Hellenic Heavy Peltastai are suppose to be tough and can serve as emergency line troops in a pinch. (they have good armor, a shield, a decent sword, etc) - but if you're talking about the
thorkati Peltastai with the falx-looking weapon, the weapon lethality is OPed & needs to be edited.

Don't know about the Peltastai, it was just an observation that they are pretty much all very powerful and those thorkati Peltastai are just killers. I'm not that familiar with Greek military.

As for hastati-principes, what do you suggest? I was thinking of increasing the cost of principes. But then again, I guess all Roman units are suppose to be cheap and spam-able?

Yes, republican troops weren't really a standing army, they were kind of drafted and trained when in need - but, since Rome was almost always at war, they were in action very often, though. Therefore, the cost of all infantry, I think below triarii, maybe principes, should be comperably low. However, principes were significantly better equipped (That's pretty much what Roman troops differed in - equipment, before the Marian reforms).

Again, we have a few periods in republican military. In EB we have the Camillian reforms and the Polybian reforms. There aren't any rorarii or leves in the Polybian times. Because of that, in my opinion, there should be a bigger difference between the Polybian troops. The hastati were absolute greenies, just properly drilled and with alright equipment. The principes were much better. Certainly a bigger difference than how it is portrayed in EB.

If we start messing with those republicans, then we might unbalance other Roman troops, which might unbalance other factions' units. I'm not an EDU expert, so I leave it to you to do anything with it, you're probably more experienced than I am with this stuff.

P.S.

Did you have a look at that thread?