Unit stacking?

[Nightmare]

The team tries to recreate the situation of 272BC and lets the players make their own decisions.

This is exactly what I was trying to say. Of course, since I misread what moonburn said, it was just blowing a lot of hot air for no reason, as nobody here said or implied that it DIDN'T work that way.

Fwiw, I *have* encountered people on the forum who say it doesn't work the way you just said above. That's what I'm used to encountering and responding to. It may have contributed to why I misread his statement. In other words, I'm used to seeing it said the other way.

about EB's victory conditions:
They are not what the factions achieved in real history, but what they wanted to achieve (or if we don't have sources, an interpretation of these goals). I think some of your animadversion on the used system comes from this.

Again, no animadversion here. In other threads relating to other topics? Yes. Here? No. In fact, I agree perfectly with how you say this was done above. Were I to have designed this mod, I would have done it the same way.

about historical/unhistorical tactics (both on campaign and battle map):
It is every player's own choice if he uses loopholes in the game engine or not, don't forget, it's a game.

Again, I agree 100%. And I have not been critical of players using such loopholes. I simply asked what other players' opinions were, that's all.

I hope this clarifies a bit the intendencies of the team.

Seems crystal clear to me. I only keep responding here to clarify things myself. People (you this time, it seems) keep thinking I'm being critical of the game in this thread. And I keep saying "I'm not being critical! I haven't levied any criticisms! I think it works the way you just said it does!"

You speak as if you are part of the EB mod team. Are you?

[XSamatan]

You speak as if you are part of the EB mod team. Are you?

You can discern team members by their signature banners which display "Member" or "EB Team Member" (thus tbh, not all). Some team members also have their position/personal task displayed below the name.

I think there is an outdated list somewhere on the forum, but not sure where.

Regards,
XSamatan

[Nightmare]

You can discern team members by their signature banners which display "Member" or "EB Team Member"...

Well... that's interesting. I had no idea EB team members were around the forum. I thought they were all monks living on some mountaintop somewhere, privately slaving away on EB2.

I'm not sure, but this might explain some of the responses I was getting in another thread about overpriced elite units. I haven't gone back to check, but I could have been speaking with EB teammembers themselves in some instances who felt they were being insulted or attacked to their faces, and who thus struck back with personal attacks.

While I won't hold out any hope, it would be nice to think that this was the explanation for the reactions I was getting. At least it would somewhat explain things. I had almost come to the conclusion that I was dealing with some isolated hippie commune that had no dealings with the outside world, or perhaps a bunch of homeschooled kids or something.

[Lysimachos]

Are you sure you want to warm up that? Be the grown up and let it go. I suggest you edit out the last part of that post, because it resembles pouring gasoline over glowing ashes.

[Nightmare]

Are you sure you want to warm up that? Be the grown up and let it go. I suggest you edit out the last part of that post, because it resembles pouring gasoline over glowing ashes.

What? Why do you think that?

At any rate, in case you misinterpreted or misread, I was trying to say that XSamatan's info that EB team members do hang out here on the forum on occasion might help explain some of the reactions I was getting, that's all. Now, maybe it doesn't explain it (I haven't gone back to check any banners or signatures of who was involved). But maybe it does explain it. At least I'd like to think or hope it does.

As an example of what I was trying to say, pretend for a moment that you are a conneseur of runway models who likes to attend modeling events. As you are standing in the audience (or hell, perhaps you are even a judge on a panel), you see one particular model come out, twirl around, then leave the runway. It would be one thing to remark to your friend in the audience, or to your colleague on the panel "I noticed a little unsightly lower back flab as she was walking away. Perhaps she needs to wear clothes that don't expose the flaw, or she needs to do more exercise or something." But it would be another thing entirely to approach her, to her face, and say something to the effect of "you suck." The first is entirely appropriate and acceptable. The second isn't, because it is personal.

I was saying that if I inadvertently did the second thing without knowing it (because I didn't know team members hung out here, didn't know the meaning of signatures and banners and what not), that would certainly explain things that were, up until now, inexplicable to me. That's all I was saying.

I'm not sure exactly what the problem is here, but this is at least the 10th time I've had to write a bunch of stuff to explain something that I said previously. Not sure why that's the case, because I made straight As in such things as english, writing, communication, essay, technical writing, etc. Said another way, my communication skills aren't bad. At any rate, I think the discussion on unit stacking seems to be over, and the thread has derailed to other things, so discussion should probably come to a close unless someone else pops in with something to say.

Regards.

[Lysimachos]

What? Why do you think that?

I had almost come to the conclusion that I was dealing with some isolated hippie commune that had no dealings with the outside world, or perhaps a bunch of homeschooled kids or something.

Because I would not discard the possibility that some of the people that disagreed with your opinions might find offense with the insinuations of above highlighted statements from you and react accordingly.

Of course it's your call, I just wanted to point out the impression I got and I certainly don't want to start an argument about it.

[Nightmare]

Because I would not discard the possibility that some of the people that disagreed with your opinions might find offense with the insinuations of above highlighted statements from you and react accordingly.

Of course it's your call, I just wanted to point out the impression I got and I certainly don't want to start an argument about it.

It's sort of ironic. You DO realize that you are "proving my point?" Isolated hippie communes and the like are places where normal social norms don't apply and work so well, because they have created their own social norms. You could walk into such a place, say "hi, how are you doing?" and be physically assaulted because you insulted someone. Places like that are notoriously thin-skinned towards "outsiders" because of the way the cultures rub against each other.

Back to this forum, this thread - you are very worried that someone here could take offense at what I wrote, which you quoted. In other words, you are worried that there are some fairly thin skins around. Do you see a little irony in that (re-read the first paragraph directly above this one if necessary)?

Either way, the first reason what I wrote is fine is, people on public forums and what not who are adults simply need to develop thicker skins than what might be appropriate at an isolated hippie commune. Jesus H. Christ, what I wrote that you quoted, even if I was totally serious, **PALES** in comparison to what you see on total bland absolutely normal forums on the internet (you HAVE been to other forums on the internet... haven't you?). I mean, if you see potential offense in what I just wrote above, I'd hate to see you at a place where things might REALLY get contentious, like at a place where politics is discussed for instance. I mean, even at the starcraft forum, every other post contains stuff **WAY** more offensive than what I just wrote. And it's just normal stuff.

The second reason what I wrote is fine is...

I had ALMOST come to the conclusion...

I said "almost." I didn't say "did."

The third reason what I wrote is fine is, even if I didn't say "almost" (I did), it was a private conclusion I "almost" came to. I can come to whatever private conclusions I want (or, "almost" come to them).

The fourth reason what I wrote is fine is, it isn't (necessarily) an insult to live in an isolated hippie commune, or be homeschooled. While I've never wanted to live in a hippie communune, I do wish I had been homeschooled myself, and will certainly homeschool my own kids, I'll just make sure they get out from time to time to see the real world and develop some sort of a skin so they don't have the potential problem we are discussing now.

The fifth reason what I wrote is fine is, while I had honestly almost come to that private conclusion, I voiced it to try and inject a little humor into the situation - granted in a dry sort of way. (By the way, people with thin-skins who live in isolated hippie communes are notoriously devoid of humor, or at least outsider humor. Again, that irony thing I'm pointing out.)

I can go on and on here. But the bottom line is, at some point, if people want to be offended at every little statement someone makes, and they want to go through life in a constant state of being offended, I can't much be worried about it. I mean, at some point people have to take responsibility for their own propensity to be offended at things. I mean, God forbid they go into an office every day at some normal job - they simply wouldn't be able to function. Hell, God forbid they went to the public schools I went to, or rode on the public school buses I rode on. I guess I'm glad they didn't - they'd be dead.

Well, I've run out of patience explaining every little thing I've said ad infinitum. It tends to make me think I really DID stumble upon some isolated hippie commune. I understand you said you didn't want to start an argument. Don't worry, no offense taken here, and "no harm no foul." :-)

Have a nice day :-)