Non-Hispanic Whites Now Minority Births

[Vladimir]

You seriously think the possibility of succeeding is worth the price of failure?

Again - Yugoslavia...

Success is always worth the risk of failure.

[gaelic cowboy]

Success is always worth the risk of failure.

Except people cannot agree what success is in this case.

[rajpoot]

Except people cannot agree what success is in this case.

That's the clever bit. Success would be when everyone agrees that they've succeeded.

[Greyblades]

That's the clever bit. Success would be when everyone agrees that they've succeeded.

By that standard everything that has ever been done, ever, has been a failure.

[Kadagar_AV]

Success is always worth the risk of failure.

This argument is so stupid I barely know how to respond.

I want to fly, but I would not jump of the roof thinking success is worth the price of failure. You would?

[rajpoot]

By that standard everything that has ever been done, ever, has been a failure.

Not in this case.
You'll know that you've succeeded in bringing harmony to the different cultures when they all agree that they have harmony.

[Kadagar_AV]

Not in this case.
You'll know that you've succeeded in bringing harmony to the different cultures when they all agree that they have harmony.

Wehrmacht tried, went so/so...

[Greyblades]

Not in this case.
You'll know that you've succeeded in bringing harmony to the different cultures when they all agree that they have harmony.

Hah.
In every issue there is always someone who will say it was a failure, and they will truely believe it.

[Vladimir]

This argument is so stupid I barely know how to respond.

I want to fly, but I would not jump of the roof thinking success is worth the price of failure. You would?

Try. I would build a machine that flies, use a bungee cord, parachute, hang glider, etc. It's pretty simple.

[gaelic cowboy]

Not in this case.
You'll know that you've succeeded in bringing harmony to the different cultures when they all agree that they have harmony.

We must court disharmony now in order to achieve a potential racial and demographic nirvana which nobody can agree is either achievable or acceptable at present.

Seems to me that to ignore this would be folly.

[rajpoot]

We must court disharmony now in order to achieve a potential racial and demographic nirvana which nobody can agree is either achievable or acceptable at present.

Seems to me that to ignore this would be folly.

Like I said before, I don't think there is an alternative. One has to accept that as the population grows different people will come together. To try and make it work is the only way out.

Wehrmacht tried, went so/so...

Actually they tried to exterminate other cultures. I'm talking about harmony achieved through tolerance.

[Kadagar_AV]

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Want to hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

When you can make a person tolerant, then you can try with humanity. Until that point in time...

[Vladimir]

Want to hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

When you can make a person tolerant, then you can try with humanity. Until that point in time...

I think what he's trying to say is that there is a net gain. Genetically, ideologically, and culturally isolated societies may work but they're not desirable. Forced multiculturalism is different than gradual integration and the reason that it doesn't work is largely due to people like you who make decisions based on emotion.

This isn't the slopes man.

[Kadagar_AV]

I think what he's trying to say is that there is a net gain. Genetically, ideologically, and culturally isolated societies may work but they're not desirable. Forced multiculturalism is different than gradual integration and the reason that it doesn't work is largely due to people like you who make decisions based on emotion.

This isn't the slopes man.

Don't you yourself see the obvious flaw in your reasoning?

No forced multiculturalism will never work, as people like me will make decisions based on emotion - IE - "You ******* Muslim trash raped my little sister because she has a short skirt so now I'll kick the living **** out of any Muslim I see if I have half the chance".

Am I saying it is right? No.

I am saying it is HUMAN.



I have no idea what you mean with your comment that this forum is not a slope, seems kind of obvious to me. Or did you mean that people are less tolerant on the slopes... Or what?

[rajpoot]

@Kadagar_AV

But the point is it is working to some degree over here. That is it is possible that if everyone puts in a little more effort, it can work out.
Where's your faith?

And furthermore I ask again, what other alternative do you have? You can't stop people from migrating. You can' stop children from being born.
The only one I know of is the one you mentioned yourself earlier on, and yeah like you said, it did not work out very well.

[Vladimir]

Don't you yourself see the obvious flaw in your reasoning?

No forced multiculturalism will never work, as people like me will make decisions based on emotion - IE - "You ******* Muslim trash raped my little sister because she has a short skirt so now I'll kick the living **** out of any Muslim I see if I have half the chance".

Am I saying it is right? No.

I am saying it is HUMAN.



I have no idea what you mean with your comment that this forum is not a slope, seems kind of obvious to me. Or did you mean that people are less tolerant on the slopes... Or what?

Sorry. Skiing reference. I'm saying that this isn't as intuitive as that and you're reacting emotionally.

Many bad things are in human nature; most people choose not to express them. It seems like you're treating the extreme minority as the majority.

[Kadagar_AV]

@Kadagar_AV

But the point is it is working to some degree over here. That is it is possible that if everyone puts in a little more effort, it can work out.
Where's your faith?

And furthermore I ask again, what other alternative do you have? You can't stop people from migrating. You can' stop children from being born.
The only one I know of is the one you mentioned yourself earlier on, and yeah like you said, it did not work out very well.

rajpoot,

Location: Neverland.

I think you just made my point for me.

[rajpoot]

I can put Timbuktoo in there if it makes a difference.

What's your point anyway?

[Kadagar_AV]

Vladimir, People will be people... We are emotional as a race. I see the human race as it is, you see it as you want, and hope, it will be. I used to do that too, before I took to much damage from it. Now I accept humanity as it IS, and try to make my decisions on how humanity is, not how I want it to be. I will try to push people in the direction I want it to be, free borders and so on... But I do not allow free borders FIRST, and try to change humanity AFTERWARDS. Of course I want a free world, who would not? But there are quite a number of things we would have to eradicate before that comes true, religions, or different religions, being the primary factor imho.

rajpoot, What's my point? If you don't see the funny side of it, I don't know how to help you.

[rajpoot]

rajpoot, What's my point? If you don't see the funny side of it, I don't know how to help you.

I'm all for jokes and funny stuff. It's just that I'm slow on the uptake, specially in the Backroom. Use

[Kadagar_AV]

well then, if you are slow on the uptake, I don't know how to help you either (without looking like a clown).

[Montmorency]

The simple solution is for the state to silence people like Kadagar. That way, those remaining will live with each other easily enough.

Also, more job openings.

When shall the crackdown commence?

[Kadagar_AV]

Edit: I was stupid.

Thanks ACIN

[a completely inoffensive name]

I don't think you completely got what Monty was saying.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Vladimir, People will be people... We are emotional as a race. I see the human race as it is, you see it as you want, and hope, it will be. I used to do that too, before I took to much damage from it. Now I accept humanity as it IS, and try to make my decisions on how humanity is, not how I want it to be. I will try to push people in the direction I want it to be, free borders and so on... But I do not allow free borders FIRST, and try to change humanity AFTERWARDS. Of course I want a free world, who would not? But there are quite a number of things we would have to eradicate before that comes true, religions, or different religions, being the primary factor imho.

rajpoot, What's my point? If you don't see the funny side of it, I don't know how to help you.

Something is wrong here - I agree with Kadagar again.

Either he has mellowed or I have become (even) more jaded.

If you have two people you will eventually get an argument, 10 a fight, 1000 a battle, 10000 a war.

Humans dissagree - the worst thing you can do is try to force harmony.

The best you can do is offer people as much compassions and understanding as you can and hope for the same in return. If you don't get that, well, then the other guy's a bastard and you have to deal with him on that basis.

[Kadagar_AV]

I think the truth lay somewhere in the middle, as always...

[Fragony]

None of this quaifies for being multicultural doctrine, this is multi-ethnism. Taco's & chili con carne or chicken & watermelon are as American as cheeseburgers. Multiculturalism is wondering if building a 10 story mosque on ground zero is appropiate.

[Kagemusha]

Live with it. Do you really think that skin colour decides the level of your civilization.In that case all "we" white people are cave men.

[Papewaio]

Well that's it then. I'm in the pub about to have Belgium mussels, cold
Cider and Nachos... Might just get some beer battered chips.

Wouldn't have got the Nachos but this thread has given me a hankering for some Mexican food.

[HoreTore]

None of this quaifies for being multicultural doctrine, this is multi-ethnism. Taco's & chili con carne or chicken & watermelon are as American as cheeseburgers. Multiculturalism is wondering if building a 10 story mosque on ground zero is appropiate.

No, that's called "property rights".