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    Yup. Saw a ton of this when I was there. Blatant racism is everywhere. I was talking to a Yemenite soldier who was complaining that he was being passed over for promotion because he was Yemenite.


    Also I think this line was eerie:
    "Put everyone without exception into prison or detention camps,"
    Well, it only took like six decades to forget history. Ironic for us Jews whose motto seems to be "never forget."
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    Yeah, that line made me go "WTF"...

    I am starting to become deeply troubled by the Israeli's. They seem to have some post-WWII-get-out-of-jail-for-free card a'la in the Monopoly game, I just wonder how much longer it lasts?

    Also, bordering Iran, how many comments like that can the American populace swallow before they become less inclined to support Israel? I guess this has been quieted down in the US media, but I do wonder what African Americans feel about it.

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    Im still trying to find a way to release the grip AIPAC has on our government.
    Also why I refuse to attend any AIPAC conference, even if it means a free trip to DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    how many comments like that can the American populace swallow before they become less inclined to support Israel?
    I crossed that bridge a long time ago. My brother has had extensive business dealings in Israel, and his white-boy take: "There is nobody on God's green earth more racist than the Israelis."

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    I spent the past year laughing at people who say that Israel is a place that accepts everyone.

    Unless you arent Jewish. In that case you arent welcome in Israel except as a tourist so you can be cheated out of your money.
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    How would they treat a tall blonde swedish guy?

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    While Shas and the settlers most certainly represent a textbook definition of insanity, one must never forget that they are just a minority. And unfortunately, all countries have such minorities.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    How would they treat a tall blonde swedish guy?
    I´m a tall blonde Portuguese guy and they treated me well enough both times I went there on business trips.
    One day the subject of politics in the "holy land" came up during lunch break, and you could sense the tone would get ugly very fast in that discussion, I found it better to avoid such a subject from then on.....other than that, people like any other on a day-to-day basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    I spent the past year laughing at people who say that Israel is a place that accepts everyone.

    Unless you arent Jewish. In that case you arent welcome in Israel except as a tourist so you can be cheated out of your money.
    Isn't there a fair amount of prejudice (and sometimes outright racism) among the jewish Israelis as well? I.e. persian jews are [insert negative stereotype]
    Or at least that's what I've heard somewhere - I'll take it back if I'm wrong. IIRC the previous president of Israel, the iranian-jewish one who resigned in a rape scandal, tried to play the persecution card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    How would they treat a tall blonde swedish guy?
    Just another tourist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Isn't there a fair amount of prejudice (and sometimes outright racism) among the jewish Israelis as well? I.e. persian jews are [insert negative stereotype]
    Or at least that's what I've heard somewhere - I'll take it back if I'm wrong.
    Yup. Persians are dirty, Ethiopians are crooks and cant be trusted (probably arent even Jewish!), American Jews are stupid, and only Moroccan Jews can make decent Falafel. Which might actually be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Isn't there a fair amount of prejudice (and sometimes outright racism) among the jewish Israelis as well? I.e. persian jews are [insert negative stereotype]
    Or at least that's what I've heard somewhere - I'll take it back if I'm wrong. IIRC the previous president of Israel, the iranian-jewish one who resigned in a rape scandal, tried to play the persecution card.
    My bet is that the feelings are about the same as the feelings the prussian germans faced when they moved to germany after ww2...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    My bet is that the feelings are about the same as the feelings the prussian germans faced when they moved to germany after ww2...
    I don't know how similar they are (not very, says my gut) allthough Prussians were indeed not necessarily popular with other Germans. Adenauer in particular; Der Spiegel once had an article about some newly released documents suggesting that he wanted to give away west Berlin to the eastern bloc to gain Leipzig and some surrounding territory; because he disliked all things Prussian in general (in part because he was a staunch protestant catholic) and Berlin in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    I crossed that bridge a long time ago. My brother has had extensive business dealings in Israel, and his white-boy take: "There is nobody on God's green earth more racist than the Israelis."
    He needs to visit Japan more then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    He needs to visit Japan more then.
    or russia, or morroco, or china...

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    It's official - everyone's racist except western Europe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    It's official - everyone's racist except western Europe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    It's official - everyone's racist except western Europe!

    That's hardly what we mean. But most western nations that I know of wouldn't allow a business to put up a sign that says "no service to foreginers" (and that it means the equivalent of whites only) like Japan does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Well, it only took like six decades to forget history. Ironic for us Jews whose motto seems to be "never forget."
    I might very well be wrong, "what to remember? I was never there" might be more true in this case.

    Or to be more clear and as a general question: How much does time of migration and original country influence political stance in Israel?
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    I might very well be wrong, "what to remember? I was never there" might be more true in this case.
    Well there are still a good number of survivors left, though the number is dwindling.

    Or to be more clear and as a general question: How much does time of migration and original country influence political stance in Israel?
    Sorry, I dont get your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Well there are still a good number of survivors left, though the number is dwindling.


    Sorry, I dont get your question.
    How many of the more radical Isrealis is actually related to holocaust victims/survivors or refugees? And a more general question of how those different groups still have different political opinions. The old hardcore Zionists should've moved to Palestina before things started to go really sour. It's merely a thought and might be completely wrong.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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