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    I said it all.

    http://youtu.be/-LTyesa18oI

    In the above video, titled "Again", the following happens.

    At 0:05, the Ptolemaioi charge at the Saka infantry. Unfortunately, the Saka infantry is already fighting Ptolemaioi infantry. The Ptolemaioi cavalry does not charge from the Saka side, but from his own side, thus going through his own infantry. This, my friends, is "charging through one's men".

    Pause at 0:50. Here, notice something about the positioning. The Saka cavalry is charging the Ptolemaioi infantry, the same infantry I mentioned above. Analogously to the Ptolemaioi charge earlier, the Saka player charges from his own side, and not from the Ptolemaioi side. The Saka cavalry is about 6 or 7 horses wide as it charges, and half of its front collides with Saka troops, while the other half collides with Ptolemaioi troops. Some people might say this is charging through one's own men, but I would let this slip for one major reason. The Saka player is not charging through the length of his men. The Ptolemaic charge at 0:05 goes through the length of his own front. This is unacceptable.

    The Ptolemaic charge at the Saka rear at 1:00 is clearly legal. Those horses go around the engagement line and hit the rear of the Saka, rightly causing a series of routs among the Saka infantry.

    I hope this clears some questions that people might have. If you have any questions, please, I'm happy to take them.
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    Default Re: Cav charge throughs.

    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    At 0:05, the Ptolemaioi charge at the Saka infantry. Unfortunately, the Saka infantry is already fighting Ptolemaioi infantry. The Ptolemaioi cavalry does not charge from the Saka side, but from his own side, thus going through his own infantry. This, my friends, is "charging through one's men".
    I charged the peltastai, since these were in loose formation, the cav went for their middle, which unfortunately was behind my men, but I didn't kill any men there, only in the flank...

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    No , the first charge, only gets Saka infantry which is flanking .


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    Default Re: Cav charge throughs.

    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    I said it all.

    http://youtu.be/-LTyesa18oI

    In the above video, titled "Again", the following happens.

    At 0:05, the Ptolemaioi charge at the Saka infantry. Unfortunately, the Saka infantry is already fighting Ptolemaioi infantry. The Ptolemaioi cavalry does not charge from the Saka side, but from his own side, thus going through his own infantry. This, my friends, is "charging through one's men".
    It only looks that way. There are 10-20 men of saka infantry who have encircled the ptolies. THEY are charged... that way also arjos charged INTO his own men but not THROUGH them, he did not reach men BEHIND his unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kival View Post
    It only looks that way. There are 10-20 men of saka infantry who have encircled the ptolies. THEY are charged... that way also arjos charged INTO his own men but not THROUGH them, he did not reach men BEHIND his unit.
    That teaches us not to use videos. Use eagle's eye view screenshots and diagram them. Arjos saves face.
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    Default Re: Cav charge throughs.

    Agreed, I concede.
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    Default Re: Cav charge throughs.

    To be completely honest, I was unaware that cavalry are not allowed to charge through each other, probably a combination from my past experiences watching it performed by others, the wording on the site, and that no one has ever called me out on it. Definitely something to keep in mind for future battles.
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    With how cav speeds up when they get into charge range, it is really difficult to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    Yes, much clearer. Thank you
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