Pirate Ninja Robot Zombie Mafia IN SPACE [Concluded]

[Csargo]

Vote:Abstain until I get a chance to read the thread.

[Double A]

vote: Montmorency. Visorslash helped catch a ninja zombie robot pirate. I think we can lay off the suspicion on him for at least one round. As for those who are voting for me, I plead incompetence as a townie rather than.

vote: seafloor

Not like that's a terrible defense or anything.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wild prediction: Woad will flip innocent. Double A, still guilty.

[thefluffyone93]

Vote: Wideyedwanderer

Elton John is slightly over-rated.

And the accusations seem shallow and pedantic.

[Double A]

Wild prediction: Woad will flip innocent. Double A, still guilty.

Pass the space sugar, I need some for my space coffee.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pass the space sugar, I need some for my space coffee.

Can't. Dead. Your fault.

[Memnon]

Can't. Dead. Your fault.

Wait, wait, wait. I may be dead as well, but give me some credit. It's my fault that you're dead, Pizza...

I get no respect for my zombified ways. And you whippersnapper ninja, who goes around in pj's with a pointy stick? I hope you get eaten by an infinite number of space whales.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wait, wait, wait. I may be dead as well, but give me some credit. It's my fault that you're dead, Pizza...

Why didn't you pick someone who was actually playing?

[Memnon]

Why didn't you pick someone who was actually playing?

I just wanted to see if I could actually get away with killing you this time. Apparently the answer was no...

[Askthepizzaguy]

You do realize my N1 murder is cursed, right?

[SalmonSoil]

Oh gosh 40 minutes left and no one has made themselves look guilty guess I'll go with Pizza's suggestion.

vote: Double A

[Chaotix]

Tally:

woad&fangs - 3 (Visorslash, Double A, BSmith)

edse - 2 (Jarema, The King)

Visorslash - 1 (Montmorency)
Jarema - 1 (edse)
Montmorency - 1 (woad&fangs)
dcmort93 - 1 (atheotes)
wideyedwanderer - 1 (thefluffyone93)
Double A - 1 (SalmonSoil)

Abstaining - Xehh II, Csargo, Choxorn, dcmort93

Not Present - 5 [THIS IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD] (robbiecon [2ND], Greyblades [2ND], wideyedwanderer [2nd], Major Robert Dump, classical_hero)

Scouting Party:
Seafloor - 7 (Montmorency, dcmort93, SalmonSoil, The King, Double A, woad&fangs, atheotes)
Surface - 5 (Visorslash, Jarema, edse, Xehh II, BSmith)

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Start sending me orders whenever you're ready. I don't want to start the night phase after I finish the write-up, it will be too late for tomorrow's write-up.

[Chaotix]

STILL DAY 1, SINCE THE PLANET OF THE SPACE WHALES IS TIDALLY LOCKED TO ITS SUN
[WAKE CYCLE 3]

For once, the Captain looked genuinely excited. Sure, they were in a terrible situation, but they were finally getting to do some adventuring! Encountering unknown planets, endangering the lives of your crewmen… this was what being a Space Cadet was all about. He was worried that his crew wasn’t quite getting it yet, and they were missing out on the fun. The amount of them that were actually participating seemed to indicate they didn’t really care about this life or death situation.

He might have to call in the Space Cadet reserves if things got really bad. But for now, he contented himself with reading the results of the votes.

“Well, it looks like the brave woad&fangs has been chosen to go back in time and change the fate of this crew. Let’s proceed to the Time Machine Chamber.”

Not every ship had its own Time Machine. They tended to be prohibitively expensive, and even captains that could afford one didn’t always have it installed. There were many who believed that they really just made a mess of things instead of helping. The Captain of the Galactic Chutzpah was not one of them.

The machine itself looked rather unimpressive when they first installed it; it was really just a metal chamber with a pressure-sealed door that made a little whirring noise when it was turned on, and an open “landing” pad next to it. The Space Cadets had soon after decorated it with a bunch of flashing lights and doohickeys that did absolutely nothing but made it look a lot cooler. And what use was a Time Machine that didn’t look cool?

woad&fangs nervously stepped up to the machine, unfastened the door, and walked inside. A few Space Cadets closed it after him and re-sealed it. Then a third set the time to roughly 48 hours ago and pulled the lever. woad&fangs disappeared.

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IT’S NOT GOING TO STOP BEING DAY 1
[SLEEP CYCLE 2]

woad&fangs reappeared in the Time Machine room, 48 hours ago, on the landing pad. The room was dark, and it took him a second or two to get used to the lack of lighting. It wasn’t far to the engine room from here, so he got going.

When he arrived in the engine room, it was empty. woad&fangs glanced at his Atomic Space Wristwatch. They had sent him back to approximately 10 minutes before the engine had exploded, so he had set his watch to count down from 10 minutes. He had roughly 7 minutes left. Whatever was about to happen, he would have to solve it quickly.

He couldn’t shake the feeling that something was wrong in this room. Of course something would be wrong. That’s why the engine would explode. But the problem was, nothing seemed to be wrong with the engine. He was no Engineer, but all the lights and charts and graphs and things were green, and it looked to be running smoothly.

“Hello, woad&fangs.”

woad&fangs jumped seven feet into the air. He could do that because the Galactic Chutzpah had a relatively low gravity environment. He looked around him, scared out of his wits, but the room was empty. It was dimly lit, true, but the flashing lights and screens provided enough light that he could see the whole room.

“Wh-who’s there? Show yourself!”

“I am the CHeeky Artificial Onboard Theoretical Intelligence eXecutive. You may call me CHAOTIX."

The Space Cadet sighed with relief. It was just the autopilot AI, speaking to him over the intercom.

“Phew. You scared me for a sec there. But listen, CHAOTIX, you’ve gotta help. I’m from the future, and the engine’s about to explode!”

“I know.”

“Wait, how could you know?”

“I reasoned that since there are two instances of woad&fangs currently on board the Galactic Chutzpah, and you are in the engine room, that I will in the future tell the Captain to send someone through the Time Machine to the engine room. The only possible reason for that is engine failure.”

This sure was a smart AI. woad&fangs was glad it was on their side. He looked at his watch again. Only 3 minutes were left! All this talking to a machine was wasting time! He had to hurry, or he was going to blow his chance.

“Hey, can you help me, or is this out of your jurisdiction?”

“Yes.”

That was a strange answer. There was only so far you could get with computers, he supposed.

“Ok, what do I have to do?”

“Unscrew the plate guarding the wiring for the right panel.”

woad&fangs pulled out his trusty Sonic Screwdriver and set to work frantically. Underneath the panel was a mass of tangled wires, all different colors and sizes. By the time he had removed it, he had only 30 seconds left.

“Quick, CHAOTIX, what do I do next?”

“Cut the infrared wire.”

“But I can’t SEE infrared! Oh crap this thing’s going to explode any second now!”

“Why not just use your Space Goggles?”

This AI thought of everything. woad&fangs fumbled for his Space Goggles, then set them to the infrared setting. Glancing at his watch, he had only 10 seconds left. He grabbed his Space Wire Cutters. The wire was clear as day to him through the goggles, but it was high up on the panel. He had to stand on his tiptoes just to reach it. The clock counted down.

5… 4… 3… 2… 1…

woad&fangs cut the wire.

B-BOOOOOOOOM!!!

SPLOOOOSH!!

CRACKLE FRACKLE CRACKLE BLURBLE GLURBLE BLURBLE…

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STILL DAY 1, SINCE THE PLANET OF THE SPACE WHALES IS TIDALLY LOCKED TO ITS SUN
[WAKE CYCLE 3]

The Captain looked on as woad&fangs vanished. Then he turned to his crew.

“Alright then, Cadets. If woad&fangs succeeded, then right about immediately we should suddenly be back in space with a non-exploded engine.”

The crew waited a moment or two.

“Well, I guess that didn't work. On to plan B. The vote was close, but it seems the majority of you are in favor of scouting the seafloor for raw materials to repair the engine with. So everyone get your ADVENTURE GEAR together and meet me at the Shuttlemarine in 10 minutes.”

When they had all boarded the Shuttlemarine, the launch bay was sealed off from the rest of the ship and the doors opened. The smaller ship was able to accommodate all of the reduced crew, but that was not to say it wasn’t a little cramped. An instance of the Captain’s autopilot AI was installed on this ship as well, in case the crew had any questions or otherwise required its help. The Shuttlemarine propelled itself through the deep, dark, liquid ammonia oceans.

They had been searching for the better part of an hour, but they had found nothing so far. The fact that the liquid was so murky didn’t help at all, and they were all tired from having been on wake cycle for over 48 hours. Perhaps it was luck, or perhaps destiny, but soon they chanced on what appeared to be a massive, ruined underwater city, built by some ancient civilization.

The doorway to the complex was at least 3 times the size of the Shuttlemarine, and on either side was a massive statue of a GIANT SPACE WHALE, each with an angry face, standing on its tail fin and holding a trident in its flipper to guard the entrance. The Captain piloted the Shuttlemarine slowly inside. They wound up in a large submerged foyer with pathways leading in several directions. It was lit by huge glowing orbs of bioluminescent stuff floating towards the ceiling.

“Listen up Cadets! Strap on your ADVENTURE GEAR and set it to FLIPPER MODE, we’re getting out. We’ll have a sleep cycle first, then when we’re rested we’ll get to exploring this place. On NO CONDITION should you leave the camp unless I say so.”

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Alive: 19/28
atheotes
BSmith
classical_hero
Choxorn
Csargo
Double A
dcmort93
edse
Greyblades
Jarema
Major Robert Dump
Montmorency
robbiecon
SalmonSoil
The King
Thefluffyone93
wideyedwanderer
Visorslash
Xehh II


Not Alive: 9/28
Zaccino - Space Cadet - Immortal, but eaten by a Space Whale
autolycus - Space Cadet - Bit off more than he could chew
Askthepizzaguy - Space Cadet - Died in madness having seen the future
Memnon - Zombie - Together he stood, divided he fell
Jolt - Pirate Ninja Robot Zombie - In the Cooler. The Space Cooler.
DaveShack - Space Cadet - Sleeping with the dinosaurs and the sharks
Arjos - Space Cadet - Got ding-dong ditched, extreme edition
Seon - Samurai - Was bested by the Western men and their guns
woad&fangs - Space Cadet - He couldn't change time, but time has changed him

The Space Cadets' Reserve
johnhughthom
Ironside

[thefluffyone93]

woad&fangs - Space Cadet - He couldn't change time, but time has changed him

.......
Is the Captain Ziggy Stardust?

[Chaotix]

.......
Is the Captain Ziggy Stardust?

Dammit, now I feel this perverse compulsion to throw in a Space Oddity reference too.

Thanks, fluffy.

[woad&fangs]

I can't really blame you guys for that. I really looked guilty there. At least I got to go out with a sonic screwdriver souvenir!

[thefluffyone93]

Dammit, now I feel this perverse compulsion to throw in a Space Oddity reference too.

Thanks, fluffy.

That's what I do.

Well, considering the ineptitude of our esteemed captain, I would think we would be better off sitting in a tin can,
faaaaar above the world.

Planet Earth is blue,
And there's nothing we can do....

[wideyedwanderer]

Sorry for missing the vote again. I thought I had already voted.

Vote: Wideyedwanderer

Elton John is slightly over-rated.

And the accusations seem shallow and pedantic.

Over-rated? How could you!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can't really blame you guys for that. I really looked guilty there.

No you didn't woad. Not even a little bit.

[Double A]

No you didn't woad. Not even a little bit.

He defended Jimmy in a way that said I AM CERTAIN FOR NO REASON IN PARTICULAR AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.

[Askthepizzaguy]

He defended Jimmy in a way that said I AM CERTAIN FOR NO REASON IN PARTICULAR AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.

That sounds like the kind of play a mafioso wouldn't make because it looks very suspicious and results in his own death if the other player flips guilty, which in this game is rather likely. So it doesn't even matter if he was not on the same team, he'd still end up looking guilty, and that's too large a risk for a scumbag to take.

A townie, on the other hand, generally doesn't care what the risks are in accusing/defending people, and that leads to bad plays which hang them.

Saw this coming a mile away. Anyone who gave it any thought did too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Put it to you like this-

I'm a scumbag and my options are to do one of the following four actions:

1) Accuse someone
2) Defend someone
3) Lurk and say nothing
4) Be active but not make any strong accusations

Which has the highest likelihood of causing me grief?

If I defend someone, and I'm successful, then that is a person I may have to murder because I can't really argue for their death anymore. Further, people will wonder why I am defending someone when I have no way of knowing their innocence unless I'm a power role. Which will lead to murders or votes in my direction.

If I defend someone and I'm unsuccessful and they flip scum, I die.

If I defend someone I am acting unusually. My action will stand out whereas the rest of the players are behaving in a similar way (accusing someone) therefore it's unlikely that their single accusation will draw attention. However, if I'm the only one defending someone and they flip scum, that gains me immediate and deadly attention and there's no way to get out of it.

If I accuse someone and they're guilty I look good.
If I accuse someone and they're not guilty, I'm one of many, many people to do so.

If I lurk, and there are other lurkers, and it's not unusual for me, then generally I only die from random murders or policy lynches of lurkers.

If I am active but make no strong moves one way or the other, and this is not unusual for me, then generally I don't die except from totally random wagons.

Woad took the single most risky and lowest-profitable action in an early game situation that a mafioso can make. It's a terrible bet, wins nothing even if he were right, and has a likely chance of blowing up in his face. Such moves are extremely uncommon from most mafiosi, even the supposedly very risky ones like myself.

[Arjos]

Woad took the single most risky and lowest-profitable action in an early game situation that a mafioso can make.

woad&fangs - Space Cadet - He couldn't change time, but time has changed him

Huh? *scratches head*

Why is Pizza still making a case on W&F after the reveal? XD

Edit: nvm lol argument by assumption :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

In general your scumbags are doing one of the following two things-

1) Doing a category of action which matches the majority, or a group. [The low-risk strategy]

This can mean joining a bandwagon, though generally does not mean that they only bandwagon as some find that scummy and it earns you votes, however some mafiosi do risk it and always wagon. Bandwagoning allows you to lynch a townie, reduce the risk of getting lynched or your partner lynched since it stretches the lead of the lead candidate, and also allows you to share the blame of a mislynch with several other people, reducing the risk to yourself of backlash.

This can mean accusing someone who is not the lead candidate, particularly if there are a lot of other people doing a similar action (no large lead wagon) this is most effective when not changing who is in the lead in a given round, which tends to attract attention. This is also effective toward the middle/end of the round when your accusation is unlikely to generate traction, meaning you could follow up the next round and essentially accuse one person over two rounds for the risk of a single accusation, which is a good way to minimize your voting footprint and reduce the number of people who take note of you due to false accusations.

If there are several folks not voting, you can get away with being one of them. That minimizes your voting footprint, and is especially effective if you're already known for doing it.


2) Doing something risky but "proves" your townie-ness to the group. In other words, reducing your risk of being lynched if your gambit is successful. [The gamble]

Example: Jolt voting himself and sounding frustrated, to sound more genuinely townie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Huh? *scratches head*

Why is Pizza still making a case on W&F after the reveal? XD

I wasn't. Reading for context clues may help with the wall o words.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Where are your scum hiding?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

woad&fangs - 3 (Visorslash, Double A, BSmith)

edse - 2 (Jarema, The King)

Visorslash - 1 (Montmorency)
Jarema - 1 (edse)
Montmorency - 1 (woad&fangs)
dcmort93 - 1 (atheotes)
wideyedwanderer - 1 (thefluffyone93)
Double A - 1 (SalmonSoil)

Abstaining - Xehh II, Csargo, Choxorn, dcmort93

Not Present - 5 (robbiecon [2ND], Greyblades [2ND], wideyedwanderer [2nd], Major Robert Dump, classical_hero)

1) Voting for Woad
2) Voting for Edse
3) Nominating someone else (voting someone alone)
4) Abstaining
5) Not present


The mafiosi are hiding in one of these places, because that is the entirety of the player roster.

What is the likelihood that they are voting for Woad?

Risk factor: Being one of three voters for a townie, and lead candidate, increases suspicion to oneself, particularly on such narrow margins of winning the lynch.
Gain factor: One dead townie.
Case: All too easy, Woad defended a scumbag.

The case means it's going to be easy enough for the lynch to succeed, but the lack of large wagon means the blame factor for the lynch is going to be divided more generously in your direction. As such, the risk/gain factor is a bit high. Could there be one here? Maybe, but several? Doubtful. At least two voting for Woad are townie. Double A remains the highest risk factor for being scum IMO of these three.

I wouldn't pressure any of these three candidates right now.


Voting for Edse?

Risk factor: Not appreciably different from voting for a one-vote candidate. Backlash here is unlikely to be different either.
Gain factor: Ensuring that a fellow mafioso does not die from a single vote placed on them, followed by one lucky vote.
Case: Case?

Voting for Edse makes sense as a defensive maneuver, with the second voter being slightly more likely to be scummy than the first, as it joins an existing candidate to outvote all the one-shot candidates, forcing two additional votes to destroy a voted scumbag instead of just one. However, this assumes that the scumbags have any reason to act defensively. With only a single vote on the candidates other than woad, it's less likely that they'd make such a move with that purpose in mind.

If a person who voted for Edse survives to the endgame, they could use another look. Until then, they can be safely placed on the backburner. So I wouldn't pressure the Edse voters right now.


Voting for someone nobody else voted for?

Risk: Likely raises suspicion on you from the person you voted for. Otherwise, not much. Being accusatory but not causing a death allows you to blend in. There are also several people doing the same thing, voting but not in deadly fashion.
Gain: Look like you're scum-hunting and being active and participatory, thus avoiding any anti-lurker campaigns, without real risk.
Case: Don't really need to make one.

Six people fit this category and they do so without really distinguishing themselves radically from one another. Of note- Wideyedwanderer failed to vote once again, meaning he's approaching WOG status. As such, he's likely to be wogged, which means Fluffy's vote is more or less wasted. Not that unexpected. Edse voted for Jarema, Jarema voted for Edse. Monty voted for Visorslash, Visorslash voted for Woad, Woad voted for Monty and was innocent. Atheotes voted for dcmort, and dcmort abstained, making him a passive target. SalmonSoil voted for Double A, and Double A voted for Woad.

Specific risk factor: No risk involved for those voting for Wideyedwanderer or dcmort.
Folks voting for people who are in turn voting for other active players are creating voting footprints that can be analyzed by the endgame. Creates more of a risk but not one that is particularly prohibitive for most players.

These people are doing behaviors which create limited information but is also low risk in the long term. Pressure here is still a good idea because odds are very good one of these is scum.


Abstaining:
Xehh II, Csargo, Choxorn, dcmort93

Not unusual for Csargo or Xehh or dcmort. But they also know that they can get away with it. This indicates activity and thus interest in the game without forming a voting pattern which can be analyzed, there are also several others doing so which further reduces the risk of being accused for that reason.

As such, you are gaining the least amount of information from this group, they are behaving in a manner which is least productive for the town, and they are benefiting from the least risky action a scumbag can currently take.

I would direct your lynching efforts here. The usual abstainers may well be townie, but they may also be mafia, and you won't be able to tell which. these are also folks who will abstain as mafia because they know they can get away with it. Remove the cover for scums to hide in.


Not Present:

Meaning closer to being wogged. Wogging is a free lynch, and will apply to scumbags or townies alike if it keeps up. As such, you do not need to pressure the folks who have failed to vote twice.

The folks who failed to be present once are like abstainers, except this one does not have the balls to actually be on record as abstaining, hoping people will not notice that they're not participating, whereas an abstainer is acknowledging that they aren't pressuring anyone. As such, an eye is warranted on Major Robert Dump and Classical_Hero.


If I were to take a wild guess as to where the scumbags are hiding, it's likely spread between your abstainers and your one-vote accusers. Why? Because it becomes much harder to narrow it down further than that, and creates two generic categories for them to hide in which are both low-risk.

For informational purposes, you should punish the abstainers/non voters first, so that you're left with active and aggressive townies for the endgame which can mop up the one-vote accusers. You will have a better voting record to analyze that way.

Long story short: I'd advocate to accuse a nonvoter now, accuse a one-voter later.

More information would be revealed if no proven townie directed the lynching, because then it's easier to shift blame, so I won't specify who I think needs to die first.

Which of these folks would you want to lynch first?

• Xehh II
• Csargo
• Choxorn
• dcmort93
• Major Robert Dump
• classical_hero

Just curious. And of this list:

• Montmorency
• edse
• atheotes
• thefluffyone93
• SalmonSoil

Who would you lynch first?

[Montmorency]

Not a single one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not a single one.

Odd, considering your vote for Edse. Then again, I've lost all hope of any of your responses ever making sense.

[Double A]

That sounds like the kind of play a mafioso wouldn't make because it looks very suspicious and results in his own death if the other player flips guilty, which in this game is rather likely. So it doesn't even matter if he was not on the same team, he'd still end up looking guilty, and that's too large a risk for a scumbag to take.

A townie, on the other hand, generally doesn't care what the risks are in accusing/defending people, and that leads to bad plays which hang them.

Saw this coming a mile away. Anyone who gave it any thought did too.

When was the last time woad played? You make it sound like he would be super attentive as mafia, but I haven't seen him around for awhile and figured his skills would have gotten rusty.

[Jolt]

2) Doing something risky but "proves" your townie-ness to the group. In other words, reducing your risk of being lynched if your gambit is successful. [The gamble]

Example: Jolt voting himself and sounding frustrated, to sound more genuinely townie.

To be honest, I was genuinely frustrated at being voted for and lynched for no reason. :P