Deconstructing the white european majority.

[Montmorency]

Turning cultural relativism into a source of moral guidance will ultimately mean that one abandons every moral: then one will have to accept nothing

Why doesn't the learned Prof 'deconstruct' something useful? I have nothing against studying for the sake of it but seriously we don't need 'educating' about who we are.

The History PhD doesn't like the Anthro-Socio PhD? Hmm...

[Major Robert Dump]

I look forward to the day when whitey is no longer the majority. Maybe then everyone will finally STFU.

[HoreTore]

Well 'deconstructing the white european majority' basicly means we are deluded in thinking that we are white, european and a majority...

lol, I see you still haven't the faintest idea what the word "deconstruction" means... Hilarious.

[rory_20_uk]

I look forward to the day when whitey is no longer the majority. Maybe then everyone will finally STFU.

Yet countries where others are the majority they manage to get on without closeted idiots bemoaning that they live where they do, and complaining that there is not of others money spent on something or other.

[Fragony]

I look forward to the day when whitey is no longer the majority. Maybe then everyone will finally STFU.

Doesn't work for Amsterdam. Needs mentioning that absolutetely nothing ever works in Amsterdam

[Husar]

YOU'VE BEEN TROLLED BY HORETORE!


And the really sad part is that some of you still didn't get it several posts after he explained it...


I have to say that I didn't think of the scientific meaning at first either, even though I've heard it before.

And just to make that clear again, deconstruct in this context means to take it apart and then study the bits, not to destroy it or to make it less significant than it is today. It's a call for more detailed research. No reverse racism or self-hatred involved.
Whether a scientist should not usehis scientific language because some troll might quote him out of context to rile people up who will still be riled up because they're unable and unwilling to admit to being fooled after the troll explained them what he did there, is another question (and also somewhat laughable).

[Hax]

Can we perhaps interpret "deconstruct" within the context of dispelling myths, preconceptions and tropes that apply to the "white European majority"? As someone of mixed birth I see culture not necessarily as inherited from the parents, but something that is largely formed by the social constructs with which a person is surrounded. Of course, family is a large aspect of this, but I think that education and extra-curricular activity play a much larger role in shaping a person as he is. To what the degree the government should support this I'm not sure. I think a large problem stems from the fact that foreigners are being treated differently, which will probably not lead to them ever feeling included.

[Fragony]

YOU'VE BEEN TROLLED BY HORETORE!


And the really sad part is that some of you still didn't get it several posts after he explained it...


I have to say that I didn't think of the scientific meaning at first either, even though I've heard it before.

And just to make that clear again, deconstruct in this context means to take it apart and then study the bits, not to destroy it or to make it less significant than it is today. It's a call for more detailed research. No reverse racism or self-hatred involved.
Whether a scientist should not usehis scientific language because some troll might quote him out of context to rile people up who will still be riled up because they're unable and unwilling to admit to being fooled after the troll explained them what he did there, is another question (and also somewhat laughable).

I know he didn't mean destruction. But what he does is just as bad. He is a multiculturalist.

[Sir Moody]

I know he didn't mean destruction. But what he does is just as bad. He is a multiculturalist.

no just the opposite actually - he is criticising the way we go about Multiculturalism - he is pointing out we know more about the different minority groups and their problems than the groups which make up the Majority

He is advocating studying the groups which make up the Majority and identifying the problems they suffer rather than only looking at them as one big group

I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants...

[Fragony]

no just the opposite actually - he is criticising the way we go about Multiculturalism - he is pointing out we know more about the different minority groups and their problems than the groups which make up the Majority

He is advocating studying the groups which make up the Majority and identifying the problems they suffer rather than only looking at them as one big group

I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants...

He is critisizing it to move it forward, not to crush the idea itself. Which has to be done.

A wise man called Gelatinious Cube once nailed it: ' I think the answer to racism and issues of equality are simple: just treat everyone the same'

I think it was on page 2

there, so simple. I am not a lab-rat for crazy professors

'I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants'

Explaine myself, your turn, what teh que do you mean?

[a completely inoffensive name]

You can't kill racism/prejudice. It's an emerging problem prompted by a lack of resources in a world where responsibility/guilt is disseminated along the entire division of labor.

[Montmorency]

You can't kill racism/prejudice.

Who said it?

It's an emerging problem prompted by a lack of resources in a world where responsibility/guilt is disseminated along the entire division of labor.

Resources? Responsibility? Guilt? Division of labor? Have you been hearing "social structure" get tossed around too often in Uni?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Who said it?
Resources? Responsibility? Guilt? Division of labor? Have you been hearing "social structure" get tossed around too often in Uni?

Sorry, was copy pasta a friend's status thing from facebook. I thought I could understand by posting it here and having people pick it apart.

Now I know my friends are weak minded.

[Tuuvi]

This thread makes me feel dumb. Especially because I'm planning on getting a PhD in Archaeology/Anthropology. I lost oxygen at birth, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

[SoFarSoGood]

Do you really believe that having 'deconstructed the white European race' this Prof would reach an academic conclusion that would benefit what he has 'deconstructed'? We ALL become minorities so immigrants are not to be worried about is the end this 'deconstruction'. Doesn't matter that the majority of those he presumes to 'deconstruct' do not wish more immigrants. Divide and rule.

[Papewaio]

Of course Anglo-Saxon is a single pure race...

[Sir Moody]

He is critisizing it to move it forward, not to crush the idea itself. Which has to be done.

A wise man called Gelatinious Cube once nailed it: ' I think the answer to racism and issues of equality are simple: just treat everyone the same'

I think it was on page 2

there, so simple. I am not a lab-rat for crazy professors

'I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants'

Explaine myself, your turn, what teh que do you mean?

of course Equality is the goal - but not everyone is the same or suffers the same problems - take 3 different groups (and I apologise for the Marketing groups I am about to use), the Blue Collar Roots, the Educated urbanites and Inner city adversity.

The Blue Collar represents the skilled long time workers - think Mechanics, Factory workers etc

The Educated Urbanites are the young well educated affluent professionals - think Bankers, IT workers etc

The Inner City Adversity represents the "Slum" occupants - generally immigrants.

What the professor is saying is we have spent a lot of time identifying the problems faced by the Inner City Adversity - but we spend no time looking at the other 2 groups and instead lump them together, what we should be doing is spending as much time looking at ALL the groups equally to asses what problems each group faces and how we can fix it - not just focus on some groups

[Fragony]

of course Equality is the goal - but not everyone is the same or suffers the same problems - take 3 different groups (and I apologise for the Marketing groups I am about to use), the Blue Collar Roots, the Educated urbanites and Inner city adversity.

The Blue Collar represents the skilled long time workers - think Mechanics, Factory workers etc

The Educated Urbanites are the young well educated affluent professionals - think Bankers, IT workers etc

The Inner City Adversity represents the "Slum" occupants - generally immigrants.

What the professor is saying is we have spent a lot of time identifying the problems faced by the Inner City Adversity - but we spend no time looking at the other 2 groups and instead lump them together, what we should be doing is spending as much time looking at ALL the groups equally to asses what problems each group faces and how we can fix it - not just focus on some groups

You don't understand, there is no common dominator that is making multiculture succeed for me. Everyone can live here I don't care, but multiculturalism is a very dangerous brand of social-engineering, a top-down aproach to multi-ethnism. Nice to consider all groups but if in the end the result has to be a hundred you will always have alter the numbers.

[jirisys]

You don't understand, there is no common dominator that is making multiculture succeed for me. Everyone can live here I don't care, but multiculturalism is a very dangerous brand of social-engineering, a top-down aproach to multi-ethnism. Nice to consider all groups but if in the end the result has to be a hundred you will always have alter the numbers.

What?

~Jirisys ()

[Fragony]

What?

~Jirisys ()

What I really mean is that we all should be more like Al Salvador can't you read between the lines

[ajaxfetish]

You don't understand, there is no common dominator that is making multiculture succeed for me. Everyone can live here I don't care, but multiculturalism is a very dangerous brand of social-engineering, a top-down aproach to multi-ethnism. Nice to consider all groups but if in the end the result has to be a hundred you will always have alter the numbers.

Or, you know, you could stop talking about multiculture and start discussing issues relevant to the topic at hand.

Ajax

[Fragony]

Or, you know, you could stop talking about multiculture and start discussing issues relevant to the topic at hand.

Ajax

For the last time, I am not into that, not before you shave your legs. Period. Can we please stay on topic

[jirisys]

What I really mean is that we all should be more like Al Salvador can't you read between the lines

Ok, though I would love Al Salvador to be like the Natherlands.

Or, you know, you could stop talking about multiculture and start discussing issues relevant to the topic at hand.

Ajax

That.

For the last time, I am not into that, not before you shave your legs. Period. Can we please stay on topic

Would be nice if you actually stayed on topic yourself.

I was confused at the beggining of this thread when everyone was angry that someone wants to deconstruct the majority. Who in their right minds would equate deconstruction to "let's get some other races in here and make the white majority a minority"? Oh, hello there Fragony.

~Jirisys ()

[Fragony]

Ok, though I would love Al Salvador to be like the Natherlands.



That.



Would be nice if you actually stayed on topic yourself.

I was confused at the beggining of this thread when everyone was angry that someone wants to deconstruct the majority. Who in their right minds would equate deconstruction to "let's get some other races in here and make the white majority a minority"? Oh, hello there Fragony.

~Jirisys ()

I am on-topic flute-boy. I am not sure about you though, we were talking about what and where did I got adrift?

[jirisys]

I am on-topic flute-boy. I am not sure about you though, we were talking about what and where did I got adrift?

Studying the smaller groups that conform the white majority.

And you got adrift the second you wrote about the evils of the multiculturalist left.

~Jirisys ()

[Fragony]

Studying the smaller groups that conform the white majority.

And you got adrift the second you wrote about the evils of the multiculturalist left.

~Jirisys ()

Nope I really didn't, because for lefties such as yourself only within the multiculturalist context is any debate allowed. Too narrow a margin for me I need some more space to feel comfortable. Otherwise it's a bit creepy.

[HoreTore]

YOU'VE BEEN TROLLED BY HORETORE!


And the really sad part is that some of you still didn't get it several posts after he explained it...


I have to say that I didn't think of the scientific meaning at first either, even though I've heard it before.

And just to make that clear again, deconstruct in this context means to take it apart and then study the bits, not to destroy it or to make it less significant than it is today. It's a call for more detailed research. No reverse racism or self-hatred involved.
Whether a scientist should not usehis scientific language because some troll might quote him out of context to rile people up who will still be riled up because they're unable and unwilling to admit to being fooled after the troll explained them what he did there, is another question (and also somewhat laughable).

Point number one was to have a laugh.

The second, more serious point, is that these kind of things are what makes up the "facts" of the far-right idiots, like the BNP, Geert, etc. This is the kind of stuoidity they base their paranoia on.

The exact quote I used has been used before, by Fjordman among many others. The last time I know it was used, was by ABB in the trial. I just loved Hylland Eriksen's reply to that use; "well, you can't expect much better, he is uneducated after all..."

There might be some differences between the intelligence level of Eurabia and Holocaust denial, but I can't see it. Both "theories" represent thedeath of intelligent thought; very few things can be called dumber.

[Fragony]

There might be some differences between the intelligence level of Eurabia and Holocaust denial.

Since when are you so generous

[Furunculus]

Point number one was to have a laugh.
The second, more serious point, is that these kind of things are what makes up the "facts" of the far-right idiots, like the BNP, Geert, etc. This is the kind of stuoidity they base their paranoia on.

i'm not sure i recognise much of a direct parallel between the likes of the extreme right like the BNP and populist right like Geert.

[Beskar]

Geert is more reactionary popularist right, rather like the stereotypical Daily Mail reader. He is more a rabble-rouser, provoking attacks against things which threaten people, thus drawing upon the protective and defensive nature of a population. If there is no perceived threat, he would lose political support.

BNP are the extreme right which inhabits loonyville, they systematically march on in spite of reality.