Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
I was not saying laws are based on chemical reactions, I was saying that the belief or feeling that atheist get [if atheism is true] that murder,rape,sexism etc are wrong, is nothing more than random chemical reactions in there brain. They have no right to tell another person [random chemical reactions] That thinks murder,rape,sexism are good [hitler]. That that person is wrong to do so. there is no way to now if you, and not the other person have the right chemical reactions. In fact there is no "right" reactions, or good or bad.
wow you clearly read/watched too much of the garbage you are linking too - Atheists believe the law and moral codes are a product of society and not handed down by a great sky wizard - that chemical reaction garbage is tossed around generally by Fundamentalist groups of all faiths when arguing that Atheism is "immoral" - no Atheists actually believe that morality or law should be handled by chemical impulses .. hell we would all be in one hell of a state if we did...

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
I was under the impression that you thought Christianity was pagan mythology, I would love you to start that thread if willing. I will gladly soon start a thread on all the major objections to the bible/Christianity, as I have done on twc including the conquest of Canaan.
no Christianity is no more Pagan than Islam - they both however adopted a rather large number of traditions and/or festivals from Paganism however - part of this was to make it "easier" for the newly converted

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
I agree you are correct, passages can be pulled out of context, in fact I have done so with the koran on at least 2 occasions and been corrected. That is for people to show not assume. Also if you watch debates i posted, you than can see 2 intepritations of many passages be debated.

As far as 'progressive', i would like to argue the bible is not 'progressive', I see this as a very bad thing. Progress usually means allow anything, no one is wrong. This is very bad idea that can easily be shown false and to lead to people such as hitler.
wow ... just wow...

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Definition of progressiveadjective

  • 1happening or developing gradually or in stages:a progressive decline in popularity
  • (of a medical condition) increasing in severity:progressive liver failure
  • (of taxation or a tax) increasing as a proportion of the sum taxed as that sum increases:steeply progressive income taxes

  • 2(of a person or idea) favouring social reform:a relatively progressive Minister of Education
  • favouring change or innovation:the most progressive art school in Britain
  • relating to or denoting a style of rock music popular especially in the 1970s and characterized by classical influences, the use of keyboard instruments, and lengthy compositions.

  • 3 Grammar denoting an aspect or tense of a verb that expresses an action in progress, e.g. am writing, was writing. Also called continuous.

  • 4(of a card game or dance) involving a series of sections for which participants successively change place or relative position.

  • 5 archaic engaging in or constituting forward motion.
To be progressive means to adapt to changes in society/technology not to allow anything (seriously where did you pick that one up...)

Most religions have been very slow to adapt to the new world (hence the rise of Atheism)- their Bronze age ideals are less and less relevant in an age where Men and Woman are (almost) equal and the free transfer of ideas happens instantly via the internet

Thankfully several are trying - The Church of England allows woman vicars (and hopefully soon bishops as well) and there is even a movement within the Papacy to allow the same for Roman Catholics (whether they will succeed is another matter) - if they don't adapt they will over time simply lose any relevance

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
The human brain [if atheism is true] is just random chemical reactions, random matter united.
seriously you cant even get basic science right - if a Human brain was only "random" chemical reactions we would all be utterly unpredictable - hell we wouldn't even be able to predict what our bodies would be doing - your very personality is controlled by your brain and while no two people are the same there is nothing "Random" about the pattern of Chemical and Electrical reactions


Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
Agree with second part, But what do you mean did not hit the mark? It hit the mark perfect atheism. Survival of the fittest etc. Why are you correct and him wrong?.
... your thinking of Darwin who incidentally enough was Christian - Survival of the Fittest is part of the Theory of Evolution (and is often abused by people who have no real understanding of it) - it has NOTHING to do with Atheism - Atheism is LITERALLY not believing in sky wizards - that is it


Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
“ He who does not wish to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has not the right to exist”.
Hitler A Mein Kampf, english translation by James Murphy, 1939 Fredonia Classics, New York, p266 2003

“The stronger must dominate and not mate with the weaker, which would signify the sacrafice of its own higher nature. Only the born weakling can look upon this principle as cruel,and if he does so it is mearly because he is of a feebler nature and narrower mind for if such a law did not direct the process of evolution
then the higher development of organic life would not be conceivable at all”.
Hitler A Mein Kampf, english translation by James Murphy, 1939 Fredonia Classics, New York, p262 2003

“if nature does not wish that weaker individuals should mate with the stronger, she wishes even less that a superior race should intermingle with an inferior one. Because in such a case all her efforts, throughout hundreds of thousands of years, to establish an evolutionary higher stage of being may thus be rendered futile.”
Hitler A Mein Kampf, english translation by James Murphy, 1939 Fredonia Classics, New York, p263 2003
oh good we are breaking out Hitler - one of the worlds most evil CHRISTIANS - incidentally he never understood Survival of the Fittest either