Was Hitler a christian? and atheist morallity

[rvg]

Don't have much to add to this thread other than to say that the Ignore list is a great feature.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Don't have much to add to this thread other than to say that the Ignore list is a great feature.

But then you would miss out on all the fun.

Has anybody actually checked the link TR gave of himself in another debate.

I've only glanced at it but it appears to be discussion of whether radical Christians or radical environmentalists are more likely to attept to genocide humanity.

Who is the biggest danger in this very serious and relevant topic? I don't know, but I can't wait to find out...

[HoreTore]

But then you would miss out on all the fun.

Has anybody actually checked the link TR gave of himself in another debate.

I've only glanced at it but it appears to be discussion of whether radical Christians or radical environmentalists are more likely to attept to genocide humanity.

Who is the biggest danger in this very serious and relevant topic? I don't know, but I can't wait to find out...

I have always been extremely fascinated by the right-wing christian islamophobia, it's way more fun than the hooligan islamophobia of edl, for example.

The only problem is that such sites tend to be riddled with bible verses, of which I have neither knowledge nor any intent of reading. They may be more fun for you than me, Rhy. I have seen some non-bible heavy sites though, and they've been a blast.

Edit: dang it, I misread you Rhy, I thought you were referring to the links he gave in his OP...

Edit2: checked out the twc-link. Stopped reading after seeing the second posters nick was "Justicar". That's just soooo July 2011....

[total relism]

if your point is that he was only using Christianity as a way to attain and maintain power........that's kinda like saying water is wet........that's what religions do.

I thought that was the governments position, in fact they like to control religion, keep it in the church walls.

I think I prefer to live in an atheistic moral world, than a Christian moral world.

First of all, as other posters also have pointed out, the "absolute" morals of Christianity are absolute, but what absolutes these consist of change from person to person, church to church, time to time.

However, someone having an ABSOLUTE morale to rely on can more easily be duped into really horrible actions against other humans, as the "others", by not adhering to the same morals, by definition are ABSOLUTEly wrong / corrupt. Just makes demonizing other human categories that much easier.



I prefer to live in a world where morals are not set. I believe it's wrong to kill, but it doesn't mean I have never killed, or will never kill. Absolutely NONE of my morals are absolute.

Sure, some things I would have to draw up absolutely ridiculous-over-the-top-Hollywood-scenarious to justify.... rape as an example...

I see it very hard imagining a situation where I would deem it morally OK to rape another person... Buuuuut... Say a sinister disease killed all of humanity except me and two girls. One of these girls have terrible mental issues from all that has happened, and absolutely refuses giving birth...

Would I rape her and force a birth to try and save the human race? Hard to say as I haven't been in that situation, and I don't see the need to speculate about it as I probably wont ever get there either.

However, it goes to show that my morals on rape or anything else aren't absolute by any means.

I agree in alot of parts, party all the time sex whenever you want, multiple partners etc who wants to be "good". That look at a woman lustfully is same as adultery just does not work for me well. But than again its not a dream world it is reality. Course if I was a jew in a oven i might want a moral society based on morals to live in.



I would say what is absolute is bible, not what someone says, or what some church says.


How contradictory, you say first, that Christians could do horrible things because of absolute morals like thou shall not kill. Than say as a atheist without absolute morals "really horrible actions against other humans". This demands that "bad" actions murder rape etc are absolutely wrong.. Meanwhile, if there are no absolute morals as hitler/darwin point out, than there is no reason to commit such crimes in the first place.

I have always been extremely fascinated by the right-wing christian islamophobia, it's way more fun than the hooligan islamophobia of edl, for example.

The only problem is that such sites tend to be riddled with bible verses, of which I have neither knowledge nor any intent of reading. They may be more fun for you than me, Rhy. I have seen some non-bible heavy sites though, and they've been a blast.

Edit: dang it, I misread you Rhy, I thought you were referring to the links he gave in his OP...

Edit2: checked out the twc-link. Stopped reading after seeing the second posters nick was "Justicar". That's just soooo July 2011....

I am always fascinated by liberal anti christian, politically correct, anti conservatives. They all seem to be on total war forums lol. I fully am concerned with islam spreading, fully admit to it. Would you car to join we in a thread, should westerners be concerned with the spread of islam.? I would love to hear your point of view on why we should not fear that.

Who is the bias one? scared of bible verse?.

18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.#
john 15 18-19

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1.18

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him
1 Corinthians 2 .14