2012 U.S. Presidential Election

**Lemur** · 11-07-2012, 02:23

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Obama isn't riding a wave of hope and change this time either, so it's not rational to expect a Democrat turnout like 2008.

It may not be rational, but it may be empirical. Early signs:

Virginia election officials said statewide turnout would likely meet or exceed the 2008 presidential election. State Board of Elections Secretary Donald Palmer said robust turnout led to long lines at polling places across the state and waits varied from one to up to four hours.

Officials say they were working with localities to bring in more voting equipment and staff to help ease lines at polls that opened at 6 a.m. Tuesday.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 11-07-2012, 02:50

People who are really invested in following the polling dislike the polls that look bad for them. That's why the democrats often hate on rasmussen, and were attacking gallup earlier. And partisans on the other side throw those polls in their face.

Personally I think we should have fewer polls...it seems like the polls themselves can affect the race when they shouldn't really.

edit:

Haven't seen anything positive for romney so far

**TinCow** · 11-07-2012, 02:53

Originally Posted by Lemur

It may not be rational, but it may be empirical. Early signs:

Virginia election officials said statewide turnout would likely meet or exceed the 2008 presidential election. State Board of Elections Secretary Donald Palmer said robust turnout led to long lines at polling places across the state and waits varied from one to up to four hours.

Officials say they were working with localities to bring in more voting equipment and staff to help ease lines at polls that opened at 6 a.m. Tuesday.

People I talked to at my polling place said they had never seen lines remotely as long as there were today. I have no idea why so many people have turned out, but it's hard to dispute that's happening here. McDonnell said a little while ago that some precincts couldn't even begin counting until after 8:30 because the lines were so long it took people that long to finish voting, even though the polls closed at 7pm.

**Beskar** · 11-07-2012, 04:29

The voting so far looks like the overall popular majority are voting Mitt, but Obama is getting the EC votes.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 11-07-2012, 05:18

CNN just called it for Obama. Ohio put him over.

Yawn.

**Hooahguy** · 11-07-2012, 05:20

Alright guys, predictions for the 2016 race?

**Memnon** · 11-07-2012, 05:26

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Alright guys, predictions for the 2016 race?

Assuming the Mayans were correct, I'm going to say proton number #7,984,376,716,903 sweeps what is mostly empty space, otherwise, I'm gonna wait and see.

**Strike For The South** · 11-07-2012, 05:29

If CNN shows Kenya one more time I will personally hunt down John King

Talk about missing the point of America

No talent jackasses

**TinCow** · 11-07-2012, 05:38

Looks like Colorado is going to legalize marijuana. This will be interesting...

**ICantSpellDawg** · 11-07-2012, 05:38

Christie/Rubio 2016.

G.O.P. needs to reach out to hispanics and work to reform immigration. They need to moderate their tone on birth control and stay strong against abortion, but they need to be cautious with the language that they use. We need to be more cautious on the fiscal conservatism, in spite of what pundits will say.

I wish one party would end the drug war - the trajectory is for Democrats to do this, but with the Democratic nanny-state and their growing hubris and "protect us from us" mentality, it could be the G.O.P. As immigration swells and old people die off, the GOP will re-calibrate in a big way for 2016.