Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
Big differences your missing, this is why deeper theology is needed, I just posted on this here with someone [a christian who disagrees with me] please read for my sake post 19 here [responce to basic]
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=583298
this I hope will quickly explain why so many different opinions/divisions exist within the church.

The differences are as this topic is about. If they have heard gospel message or not. Diffident rules apply to different circumstances. Paul and the john passage say the same thing, once you believe you become born of the spirit.
Agreed on matt passage, but that refers to those that claim to be christian but they never new him means they were never really saved. the whole chapter is about false prophets and false Disciples that claim to believe but do not.
Right.. discussing with you just brings more questions to the table.
But let's leave the who is right and who is wrong among the numerous self proclaimed Christians.

So... my forfather... Svein "Anvil" Magnusson, a man living at a place where Christianity never reached while he lived, will be saved regardless of deeds as he never had the opportunity to receive the word (ref John 1)?
There is no other qualifying points necessary for him, in particular, to gain salvation?

What about Paul's statement that the gospel have already been taught to all creatures? Does not that state that all know about Jesus in some form?