The 1 word essence of the political right?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Right = Racial Superiority, Economic Superiority, Patriarchal Superiority, National Superiority, Religious Superiority...
There is no equality in the right, only inequality.

Many in the right want to force inequality, such as, oppose welfare and cut taxes so they become even richer/more inequal to the poor. Jingoism and Empire Building, etc, to enforce a nations will over 'lesser' nations.

Now sit down, put on a dunce cap.

You are redefining the Right as something negative because you view yourself as being on the Left.

One could say:

Left = Forced equalisation of outcome, mass denial of oppertunity (so no one can outdo another), Draconian central control, proscription of certain beliefs and practices that are perceived as backward or lacking social utility.

If you want to actually discuss the Left/Right divide in philosophy you have to allow that both positions are held by the sane and rational as well as the insane.

Otherwise you're just indulging in party-prejudice for the sake of your soap-box.

Communalism would describe traditional Tory-sim, as the anti-thesis of Communism it views society as a cohesive whole composed of separate parts (as opposed to a mass who require social equalisation).

Given that Libertarianism comes from the Right you could also say "Freedom" where the word for Liberalism​ is probably "Individualism".

[Ironside]

Given that Libertarianism comes from the Right you could also say "Freedom" where the word for Liberalism​ is probably "Individualism".

Libertarians are a bit odd. I would describe them as anti-state conservatives that places "freedom" as their highest value. Most of them does not have liberal social values, but rather accepts them because they have to, if they should still be able to describe themself as a libertarian.

Marx saw it as inevitable, it is the core of his writings. Historians even call predictionalism Marxist form, an inevitabilty of developments. Left and right are outdated concepts anyhow imho, neither refuse democratic processes, both have submitted to the rules of majority. Nothing can exist in it's pure form, there is always compromise required.

Take a bunch of humans and their opinions will diverge into a few large blobs, corresponding to a left and a right. While the details will vary, you can still see enough general tendencies to determine what's the historical left and right. Most disagreement stems from trying to lump all the traits you dislike into the other side, while ignoring the same tendencies for your own side.

That means that the driving force is in what people are considering the most important opinions. For example, both sides want to reform and punish criminals, but the left is more focused on reform, while the right is more focused on punishment.

[Fragony]

Don't want to piss off the lefties here, but I think left and right should be replaced by a feminime and a manly aproach to dealing with things. Over here the right has adopted just about everything the left once stood for, if gay and female rights are of any concern to you you have no friends on the left as they feel respect for religion is more important, even if it's against what are really their own ideals. I don't know where I stand really so I just don't vote at all. Leaning towards the right but not enough. What I don't understand from the left is the inherent contradiction though

[Crazed Rabbit]

I think 'values' is a good term for what 'the right' would use to describe itself.

It is good, but if you take it a step-further with a description like: Daddy-Knows-Best, it summarises it up more fully. Values only go so far to explaining it.

The political left would be more Equality. if anything, the counter of the right with Daddy-Doesnt-Know-Best.

It's the "left" in the USA who are usually the nanny state party (especially with regard to soda/junk food/safety/etc.) Of course the right goes in for that with being anti-drugs (though the left isn't much better), but it doesn't seem to be such a big thing for the right.

For the right, it does seem like opposition to drugs is often based on 'values' which helps explain why (in terms of party policy) alcohol is allowed and pot is bad.

CR

[Greyblades]

Whenever I'm in doubt I allways look at akin, cheyne, Bush, Romney and Palin, then I know america's republican party are Stupid-evil.

[Fragony]

I think 'values' is a good term for what 'the right' would use to describe itself.



It's the "left" in the USA who are usually the nanny state party (especially with regard to soda/junk food/safety/etc.) Of course the right goes in for that with being anti-drugs (though the left isn't much better), but it doesn't seem to be such a big thing for the right.

For the right, it does seem like opposition to drugs is often based on 'values' which helps explain why (in terms of party policy) alcohol is allowed and pot is bad.

CR

There is a big difference between the right here and in the US. Over here in the Netherlands the right furiously anti-conservative really. Right means liberal over here. That's of course just in theory they will get in everyone's bed in practise

[Kival]

There is a big difference between the right here and in the US. Over here in the Netherlands the right furiously anti-conservative really. Right means liberal over here. That's of course just in theory they will get in everyone's bed in practise

Since when does right mean liberal in the netherlands?

[Fragony]

Since when does right mean liberal in the netherlands?

Since always. I know it's confusing but the conservatives are much more leftwing than the liberals here ideologically. Remember it's the Netherlands nothing really makes sense

[Kralizec]

Since when does right mean liberal in the netherlands?

It doesn't. We have the VVD over here. It's right-wing liberal, largely comparable to the German FDP, and which likes to advertise itself as the liberal party. It's currently the largest party and holds the office of prime-minister at the moment.
We also have a smaller liberal party called D66 (12 seats out of 150 total), sometimes included among the left-wing parties but which really is quite centrist overall. Our resident green party (even smaller) also has some left-liberal themes, but more generally they're a loose coalition of left-leaning idealists.

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As for the original topic, it's a tough question. If we generalise, the "moderate right-wing" politicians of different countries consist of conservatives and right-liberals. Nationalists as well. But if we want a general overarching term to describe them we'd have to exclude fascists, extreme libertarians and whatnot.

I'd go for the term "pragmatic".

Reason: it's generally how the Right of any given nation likes to advertise themselves. The Right usually argues against perceived "social engineering" of society. Likewise, they often argue against increasing taxes for higher income earners or companies on the grounds that it would be counter-productive. Regardless of the arguments for or against these political positions, it sounds like the common denominator between the various right-wing parties across countries.

[Beskar]

You are redefining the Right as something negative because you view yourself as being on the Left.

That is incorrect. It is only 'negative' subjectively because I don't agree with it, it isn't a redefinition. There are which agree to those kind of views.

If you want to actually discuss the Left/Right divide in philosophy you have to allow that both positions are held by the sane and rational as well as the insane.

I never assumed the right wasn't rational. They might have numerous ideas such as some people being better than others, by genetics, lineage and a host of other reasons and they see it as their right to be above those on the hierarchy.