EDU Rebalance Mod

[Seer7]

May as well, though it is going to balloon the attachments to ridiculous proportions. That'll probably be the last 'compatibility project' for now. I'll get on it as soon as the TWC stops giving me a 500 - Internal Server Error.

Edit: Done and dusted. Check the OP.

[auboy105]

May as well, though it is going to balloon the attachments to ridiculous proportions. That'll probably be the last 'compatibility project' for now. I'll get on it as soon as the TWC stops giving me a 500 - Internal Server Error.

Edit: Done and dusted. Check the OP.

Great thanks! I get the same annoying error by the way ever since they changed their forum style!

[Seer7]

Hello everyone,

Just signing in to let you all know I'm still keeping an eye on the thread, and to thank those who downloaded for their support. It's really nice to see your work appreciated.

[auboy105]

Just wanted to say thanks again still really enjoying this mod most fun Ive ever had with EB! Quick question though I notice you limited Javelins ammo but Ive noticed that infantry such as Iberian Assault have unlimited pilum ammo. Is this working as designed?

[Seer7]

Unlimited ammo? Definitely not something I intended. I'll check up on that.

On a similar note, I found some time to play through a few decades of a campaign recently, and I noticed that ranged units are rather sparse. I'm going to assume that's because of my third patch, since I don't remember it being this way in the past. I'll keep playing, but I'll tentatively recommend people only use Patch 3 for multiplayer/custom battles, in case it is affecting how much the AI trains them.

Edit: I've looked up the unit in both EDUs and tested the unit in a custom battle. Both entries in both EDUs list their ammo as 2, and my custom battle test reflected this. I'm assuming this is occurring in a campaign? In any case, it shouldn't be happening and I'm fairly confident I haven't made a mistake (this time!), so I'm perplexed. I suggest copying over this line from the multiplayer EDU into your single player EDU:

stat_pri         6, 10, pilum, 36.8, 2, thrown, blade, piercing, spear, 15 ,1

The unit entry is 'iberian_infantry_dorkei_hatkafa_ibeerim', just use the find function. It's strange, but worked for patch two so why not this?

Also, I'll take the time to note here that, contrary to my opening post, some units with the 'prec' attribute have more than two javelins. One of the few examples is the Goidilic Laecha (Cladaca?), which use shorter 'darts' rather than javelins. I'm also considering raising the (average) number of javelins used by skirmishing units to three rather than two. This would still be half of what they were assigned before, but after playing a campaign I feel that two might be just a little harsh. I'm sure it's not beyond the realm of historical possibility. I'm not sure when I would get around this, but it's a possibility.

Thanks again for the feedback, and I'm glad you're enjoying it. I'll slap on some images from my Makedonia campaign. I'm taking screenshots of the world every ten years to see how the AI factions evolve. The last image is from a battle against Seleukid forces.

[auboy105]

Unlimited ammo? Definitely not something I intended. I'll check up on that.

On a similar note, I found some time to play through a few decades of a campaign recently, and I noticed that ranged units are rather sparse. I'm going to assume that's because of my third patch, since I don't remember it being this way in the past. I'll keep playing, but I'll tentatively recommend people only use Patch 3 for multiplayer/custom battles, in case it is affecting how much the AI trains them.

Edit: I've looked up the unit in both EDUs and tested the unit in a custom battle. Both entries in both EDUs list their ammo as 2, and my custom battle test reflected this. I'm assuming this is occurring in a campaign? In any case, it shouldn't be happening and I'm fairly confident I haven't made a mistake (this time!), so I'm perplexed. I suggest copying over this line from the multiplayer EDU into your single player EDU:

stat_pri         6, 10, pilum, 36.8, 2, thrown, blade, piercing, spear, 15 ,1

The unit entry is 'iberian_infantry_dorkei_hatkafa_ibeerim', just use the find function. It's strange, but worked for patch two so why not this?

Also, I'll take the time to note here that, contrary to my opening post, some units with the 'prec' attribute have more than two javelins. One of the few examples is the Goidilic Laecha (Cladaca?), which use shorter 'darts' rather than javelins. I'm also considering raising the (average) number of javelins used by skirmishing units to three rather than two. This would still be half of what they were assigned before, but after playing a campaign I feel that two might be just a little harsh. I'm sure it's not beyond the realm of historical possibility. I'm not sure when I would get around this, but it's a possibility.

Thanks again for the feedback, and I'm glad you're enjoying it. I'll slap on some images from my Makedonia campaign. I'm taking screenshots of the world every ten years to see how the AI factions evolve. The last image is from a battle against Seleukid forces.

Strange yes I am playing a campaign with the same values. Maybe I am misunderstanding the game correctly. They throw twice and then attack. They then do the same to the next attacked unit. Is this how it works? Twice yes but unlimited.

[Seer7]

I doubt you're misunderstanding the game. They're supposed to run out of ammo, after all. Do you get the same results in a custom battle? Also, did you try what I suggested with any success?

If not, you can try copying the entire unit entry from the multiplayer EDU into the singleplayer EDU - this is what solved past issues, so perhaps it might work where changing only a single line will not. Their ownership is the same so there's no need to worry about losing them mid-campaign. If that doesn't work I'm mystified, because I have no idea how to give a unit unlimited ammo beyond editing the user 'preferences' file (the 'LIMITED_AMMO' entry), which I assume you haven't done?