responding to common objections to bible

**total relism** · 04-08-2013, 16:27

Originally Posted by Jolt

I never cease to be dumbfounded how much the Human race can be brainwashed into believing the most stupid of things.

If there was a rational benevolent omnipresent and omniscient (As if such a thing existed) entity and he wanted to be worshipped by all humans and subdue them to his law, he would show himself wherever to all humans and teach them his rules by himself to all humans and be clearly discernable from everything else in life, and there would be no bible and no churches since you could always speak and learn from all that such an entity knew.

Instead, every single theist religion needs to speak in metaphors such as "god shows himself in the heart of man, god is spirit and communicates through spirit in the heart." and other bullshit any person with a pair of eyes and two inches of common sense can easily disprove.

unless that is the god of the bible is that god, in witch case he does/cannot for the reasons given in the op. Not to mention as i showed in previous thread [those that have never herd of jesus], god is known to all though multiple lines that are built in to all people, many chose to reject that. This thread and objections are for those who say they reject the bible because it teaches so and so, not if there is a god, that one is coming.

by the way can you please disprove that god does not communicate with believers through spirit? me and billions of changed lives would disagree with that.

**Jolt** · 04-08-2013, 17:25

Originally Posted by total relism

unless that is the god of the bible is that god, in witch case he does/cannot for the reasons given in the op.

No, that is what you are told to make for the most ludicrous claims that a benevolent omniscient god cannot communicate with you, and with anyone else, and you choose to believe in it. Precisely because you do not have those two inches of common sense I was talking about.

Originally Posted by total relism

Not to mention as i showed in previous thread [those that have never herd of jesus], god is known to all though multiple lines that are built in to all people, many chose to reject that.

Relevant video:

Which is another example of mindboggling stupidity of a fairy-tale that you choose to believe in. It's on the same level of those brainwashed folks who believe Kim Jong-Il & family are avatars of Godhood, and their spirits still live in the hearts of the glorious North Korean people, because they are told.

Originally Posted by total relism

by the way can you please disprove that god does not communicate with believers through spirit? me and billions of changed lives would disagree with that.

Why, oh why do you persist with those silly fallacies??? You're the one who has to prove the existance of a spirit (Which is not proven to exist and even its definitions vary gigantically over what spirit is), and the existance of a god in the first place (Which likewise has dozens of thousands of different deities from all smalish pre-historical tribes until our days).

And yes, yes I can. God never communicated with me, does not live in my heart because I already did quite a bunch of ECG and the doctors never found a god there. And since you have taken the liberty of talking in the name of billions of people, I'll take the liberty of speaking in the behalf of the more than 100 billions of human beings that have lived in history who have never heard of the Christian religion, have heard but weren't Christian, were Christian but never heard anything (If Inquisition cases are of any use), and tell you that they have never heard anything speak to them, besides other humans. God communicates with you as much as I can imagine a fictional character's voice talking something when I'm reading it in a book. It doesn't mean that he is actually talking, it's a figment of my imagination. And by God! Humans have tremendous imagination (See what I did there? :) ). God lives in my heart as much as I have an invisible jet-powered unicorns, right outside my house.

**Gregoshi** · 04-08-2013, 18:00

A little more courtesy would go a long way here. Gang tackling tr with insults and condescending remarks is in poor form. Or is civil discourse here at the Org a thing of the past?

**HoreTore** · 04-08-2013, 18:03

Originally Posted by Gregoshi

A little more courtesy would go a long way here. Gang tackling tr with insults and condescending remarks is in poor form. Or is civil discourse here at the Org a thing of the past?

It was your puns which kept us civilized. See what happened when you took them away from us.