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i agree with you as i said before, i just dont know what this has to do with anything related to topic. I go to a baptist church yet think most likely you can fall from grace etc. Your picking a few debatable topics like trinity etc im not sure what the point is. Nowhere does the bible say you must believe in the trinity of god or use the word trinity. You claim differences on salvation yet have never supported that. What does this have to do with translation of the bible?. I think your main problem is thinking that somehow people have to outworldey or do rituals etc the same and that counts as "faith". i think you have missed the whole bible my friend.
Did you completely miss my point where the Pentacostals declare anyone not using (having) the gift of tongues as not Christian. That means you my friend. Do you agree that they might have a point? Or do you agree that they should shut their trap mouth and keep silent over something they shouldn't make a judgement call on? It is not for the Pentacostals to declare Baptist not Christian as it is not for Baptists to declare Mormons not Christians. As long as someone declare themselves a follower of Christ - they have the right to that label.

agreed, but your mistake i think is thinking that somehow the authority is in what a churches stance is on a subject instead of bible, the very thing you blame people for doing. Do you not see that?.
Divine inspiration was given to few not the many. As the NT are full of examples of. Paul declared doctrine and the churches followed. Individual interpretations were frowned upon and corrected by the church leaders.

Well i agree many just think the bible so it must be the right books, may i suggest its because they believe in divine inspiration?. You keep giving authority to man, in that case the bible is the works of man and i care not for it. I say its gods word as it claims and god stamped divine authority on the apostles and no other. But a great book showing for you how man never decided what goes in bible, only recognized what was already divinely inspired is
http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Deman.../dp/0785243631

also has responses to why other books are left out.
Sorry... I don't trust Josh McDowell as an authority on this matter. He is in contradiction to many of the authoritative scholars I mentioned. This man is an Creationist with the big C... Pseudo science is what follows his wake.

I have no problem with you being skeptical of right books in bible i was myself. That is what debates/material are for. What books do you feel should be included in canon that are not?.
How about the Apocryphon of John or Gospel of Phillip?

never said that your creating a strawman argument,i said jesus was last prophet. I alredy showed were jesus said he was last sent,also look at jude 3 were it says bible was sent once for all. If you believe Mormons are correct [starting to think you are one] i suggest these.
I don't think you interpret Matthew 21 (not 23 as you wrote) correctly. How does that parable directed at the Jews translate to Jesus being the last prophet?
It states that servants of God will collect what is produced by the vineyard, but the tenants killed those servants, and lastly the heir of the vineyard. Then he proceeds to tell them that the vineyard will be taken from them and given to other more faithful tenants... now who will collect the produce from them? If you equate servants with prophets - then naturally there will be prophets collecting from the new tenants.. those who have been given the vineyard. And I believe Christians see themselves as those tenants.. only.. they don't believe the servants exist..

What Do Mormons Really Believe
http://www.amazon.com/What-Mormons-R.../dp/B005FH5D2S
debate 1-2 Mormons -VS- Christianity - DEBATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKxQfbdYYSA
you can also find many debates/books/videos found here
http://store.aomin.org/christian-apo...mormonism.html

the fact is Mormon doctrine contradicts bible in many areas as those debate show, but this thread is not on Mormons. Jesus was last prophet sent if we accept the bible, i do you don so we will never agree on this issue.
Sorry... I don't believe in anti-literature. Its of the devil Christians should get over themselves being un-christian towards each other. After Chick publications, I don't believe any anti-something literature is produced with other intent than being malicious and evil.
Again... I don't think the Bible does ever state that Jesus was the last prophet. Check my definition of a prophet / servant and stop vomiting rehashed evangelical anti-mormon bullshit. It's poor form and poor usage of the scriptures.