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    Default Re: Hilda buys the farm.

    Even that qualifies as corporatism. IIRC political science makes a distinction between cooperative and coercive corporatism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    But I said that in reality Nazi Germany wasn't corporatist - it used state control for major industries just like the Soviets.
    Corporatism is a bit more than tripartism, but it's not having a good strict definition, making it a bit vague.

    But sufficient to say, something like Lex Krupp would cause several system errors in Soviet.

    In Nazi Germany, ally with the state and make a huge profit, but they'll have significant control of your production.
    In Soviet union, company what company? It's state property now and hope that you were popular among the workers, since it's those who can save your butt.
    Slight difference.
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    If you want to know some Nazi-Corporatism facts.

    Coca-Cola designed Fanta as the official drink for Nazi Germany.
    Hitler named/gave the idea of the Volkwagen Beetle
    IG Faben produced the biggest profit working for the Nazi's. Also invented the Aspirin. (Jewish guy did it) but they refused to credit the discovery to him. Now known as Bayer.
    Ford - was producing vehicles for the Allies and the Nazi's.
    IBM created the machines for accounting and processing, including the ones at the concentration camps.
    Hugo Boss designed the Nazi uniforms.
    Kodak profited from the cheap labour of the concentration camps.

    Corporatism under Nazi Germany was completely different to the USSR. Hilter enlisted the help of big business and in return, they got big profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    Hitler named/gave the idea of the Volkwagen Beetle
    If I remember correctly, the Volkwagen thing was a pyramid scheme. There was a pre-payment mechanism set up for buyers, but no one ever actually got a car before the war started and production turned military. The Nazis were pretty good at stealing people's money to finance the war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    If I remember correctly, the Volkwagen thing was a pyramid scheme. There was a pre-payment mechanism set up for buyers, but no one ever actually got a car before the war started and production turned military. The Nazis were pretty good at stealing people's money to finance the war.
    Like war bonds with all your neighbors looking at you cross-eyed if you didn't sign up for a few was any less creative? Not outright theft, I grant....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    Corporatism is a bit more than tripartism, but it's not having a good strict definition, making it a bit vague.

    But sufficient to say, something like Lex Krupp would cause several system errors in Soviet.

    In Nazi Germany, ally with the state and make a huge profit, but they'll have significant control of your production.
    In Soviet union, company what company? It's state property now and hope that you were popular among the workers, since it's those who can save your butt.
    Slight difference.
    Nuance has its place, but like I said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    state ownership or at least effective control/directing of the means of production.
    This is only corporatism in so far as it was once mislabelled as such. It is not the most common understanding of it, or the from in which fascists advocate it, which is the tripartist from as you called it.
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