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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    9-according to bible and archaeology..no, i have to disagree.
    The Bible says:

    Deuteronomy 20:16-17

    But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
    But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee

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    The Bible says:

    Deuteronomy 20:17

    But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee

    that is very good, it says so in many places, it even says to kill woman children and all living inside.

    21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.
    Joshua 6.21


    so could you please know read my op?. The bible and conquest narrative is alittle more than a few passages, the meaning of witch will be reveled in a total reading..


    a good start if you dont want to read all that would be to watch this debate

    Paul Copan Debates With Norman Bacrac On The Topic "Is God A Moral Monster?"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idCch7fjO1k

    http://www.paulcopan.com/new/


    I think you will fast find, the bible and archaeology do not teach genocide during the conquest.
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    Technical error, TR.

    You ask whether or not the genocide occurred. The answer is yes. Your attempt to justify this genocide does not alter the genocide taking place, and has nothing to do with it.

    Learn to correlate your answers to your opening question. Otherwise I see a wall of F's should you ever attend higher education...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Technical error, TR.

    You ask whether or not the genocide occurred. The answer is yes. Your attempt to justify this genocide does not alter the genocide taking place, and has nothing to do with it.

    Learn to correlate your answers to your opening question. Otherwise I see a wall of F's should you ever attend higher education...
    beat me to it.
    a yes/no question just got turned into a justification speech because the answer is yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    beat me to it.
    a yes/no question just got turned into a justification speech because the answer is yes.
    ....and we all know what wonderful people those who justify genocide are, right?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Technical error, TR.

    You ask whether or not the genocide occurred. The answer is yes. Your attempt to justify this genocide does not alter the genocide taking place, and has nothing to do with it.

    Learn to correlate your answers to your opening question. Otherwise I see a wall of F's should you ever attend higher education...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    beat me to it.
    a yes/no question just got turned into a justification speech because the answer is yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    ....and we all know what wonderful people those who justify genocide are, right?


    it truly does not take long, but if you guys could stop assuming what i have written, than actually read under spoiler, you will see the genocide did not happen.


    so to you HT
    Learn to read before criticizing and responding to my opening post. Otherwise I see a wall of F's should you ever attend higher education. Imagine your teacher gives you book to read, than you read cover and falsely assume what book is about. Than write a report on your false assumption, that should get a f.
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    Genesis 1.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    it truly does not take long, but if you guys could stop assuming what i have written, than actually read under spoiler, you will see the genocide did not happen.
    You attempts to "massage" the supposed biblical events so that they fall somewhere outside the definition of genocide do not impress me.
    it is a sure sign of a weak position when a man starts pulling out semantic tricks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    it truly does not take long, but if you guys could stop assuming what i have written, than actually read under spoiler, you will see the genocide did not happen.


    so to you HT
    Learn to read before criticizing and responding to my opening post. Otherwise I see a wall of F's should you ever attend higher education. Imagine your teacher gives you book to read, than you read cover and falsely assume what book is about. Than write a report on your false assumption, that should get a f.
    Hold your sanctimonious tone, please. Here's what Sigurd wrote(my bolding):

    To.9. God ordered genocide on the Canaanites? According to the Bible ... Yes.
    To which you replied:

    9-according to bible and archaeology..no, i have to disagree.
    You back this up by apparently going off on a tangent(in your OP) about how evil the Caanites were, which is completely and utterly irrelevant to the claim you objected to. If you feel Sigurd misrepresented your intent with the way he phrased his statement, you would point that out instead of objecting to it. By objecting to just its conclusion, you assert that the way it is phrased is correct.

    I, like almost everyone else on this board, already have my degree(some are still in the process of getting theirs). Unlike you. I'm no longer being graded - in fact I now grade the work of other students.

    A side note on that - The last paper I graded before the summer break was "written" in the same style as your posts - it was the easiest 0 I have ever given in my life(but then again a 0 isn't a common thing). The assessment comment was also my quickest yet - a simple comment of "Breach of academic honesty policy".
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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