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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    No - that's pretty much it.

    Zimmerman looks like a fairly solid guy - it's dark - he's following me - this isn't a great neighborhood - people get attacked - this is Florida, so he could be armed, hell I'm armed.

    So I'll shoot him before he shoots me - that's actually what I'd do in that situation - in a country where people carry concealed weapons and are allowed to shoot other people without even being arrested, I'd be pretty terrified if someone was following me.

    The situation only tilts further in Martin's favour if he says he doubled back to remonstrate with Zimmerman and then Zimmerman became aggressive (which seems likely given that Martin felt the need to knock him down).

    When the cops turn up I can say, "I was afraid he had a weapon", the cops search the body and low and behold he has a nasty little hold-out pistol without a safety catch.

    How is that any less credible than Zimmerman's story?

    After all - doesn't Zimmerman's defense rest of him being afraid for his life, against an unarmed man much lighter than him? Surely the same defense MUST be applicable before weapons are drawn, because otherwise it's functionally useless in a situation where both parties are armed.

    Or we come back to Obama being right - Stand Your Ground is a charter for armed Civilians to shoot and kill unarmed Civilians if they throw a punch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    Not sure if trolling or authentic...
    If you live in a country like the UK America is pretty terrifying.

    No healthcare and pretty much anybody could be carrying a gun - and there's a chance that if you raise your voice - someone will shoot you. Then, when you get shot and killed, nobody even gets arrested.

    Sure, I'd have shot Zimmerman, he looks either dopey or shifty in all the photos, it's dark, bulky jacket, if I saw the harness I'd assume that guy was going to kill me.

    That's a cultural thing though - in the UK we only use guns to kill people. So if you see someone carrying one and he's not a cop, he's probably going to kill you.

    Given that Zimmerman used his gun to kill Martin, I feel somewhat justified in this view of firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Sure, I'd have shot Zimmerman, he looks either dopey or shifty in all the photos, it's dark, bulky jacket, if I saw the harness I'd assume that guy was going to kill me.
    You mean he looks like a paedophile and Martin probably punched him back after he touched him somewhere inappropriate. The problem is that Zimmerman can simply omit that and get away with it now that he killed the only person who could tell us that.
    I mean looks like a paedophile, quacks like a paedophile, walks like a paedophile and follows a young boy around at night, the case is pretty much set for me.

    It's just scary how easy it was for him to silence the only victim and then get away with his sexual assault.


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    It's just scary how easy it was for him to silence the only victim and then get away with his sexual assault.
    Yeah, he even called a pedophile 911 operator to invite a few pedophile cops along for the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Yeah, he even called a pedophile 911 operator to invite a few pedophile cops along for the party.
    Yeah, sometimes these things permeate several layers of society.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    If you live in a country like the UK America is pretty terrifying.

    No healthcare and pretty much anybody could be carrying a gun - and there's a chance that if you raise your voice - someone will shoot you. Then, when you get shot and killed, nobody even gets arrested.
    That sounds like my two months trip to the US is going to be the most dangerous thing I've ever done XD

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    There is this Canadian video game speedrunner I watch who was invited to AGDQ in Washington DC and he is scared to even cross the border because he thinks he will be injured and have his life ruined by our healthcare system.


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    There is this Canadian video game speedrunner I watch who was invited to AGDQ in Washington DC and he is scared to even cross the border because he thinks he will be injured and have his life ruined by our healthcare system.
    Yeah - pretty much.

    It's like visiting a Third World country where the government is more likely to hurt you than protect you.

    Remember the British professor who was mobbed by three-four NY Police Officers for Jay-Walking, then HE was dragged before a Judge?

    In the UK that would have been thrown out for the nature of the arrest, and the cops would be up for disciplinary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Yeah - pretty much.

    It's like visiting a Third World country where the government is more likely to hurt you than protect you.

    Remember the British professor who was mobbed by three-four NY Police Officers for Jay-Walking, then HE was dragged before a Judge?

    In the UK that would have been thrown out for the nature of the arrest, and the cops would be up for disciplinary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    "Zero Tolerance" is the dumbest idea in the history of mankind.
    Can't agree. Too many dumb ideas from too many cultures for me to agree with that claim.
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    There is this Canadian video game speedrunner I watch who was invited to AGDQ in Washington DC and he is scared to even cross the border because he thinks he will be injured and have his life ruined by our healthcare system.
    That sounds.... irrational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    That sounds.... irrational.
    If he's going into DC proper, maybe not.

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    Suspect in custody after shots fired at Children's Hospital

    WAUWATOSA - A suspect is in custody after reports of shots fired at Children's Hospital Thursday afternoon, the hospital confirmed.

    The hospital says there is "no continuing threat."

    Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke says Wauwatosa Police tried to serve the 22-year-old black male a warrant for his arrest for felony possesion of a firearm on the 7th floor Neonatal Unit.

    The suspect fled, and pulled out a handgun. Officers then fired several shots at the suspect, wounding him. He is currently being treated for non-life threatening injuries at Froedtert Hosptial.
    Let me get this straight. The police decided the best place to serve a warrant on an armed individual was in a neo-natal ward? Dahmer proved that Milwaukee cops weren't exactly the brightest, but, really?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Let me get this straight. The police decided the best place to serve a warrant on an armed individual was in a neo-natal ward? Dahmer proved that Milwaukee cops weren't exactly the brightest, but, really?!?
    Never would have been a problem if the babies concealed carried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    That sounds.... irrational.
    I agree, and I have told him that more than twice that he will be fine as long as he just exercises common sense, but he says he can't imagine having to stay out of certain areas for a given time period because in Canada you can walk anywhere you want at any time and feel safe. Sure dude, sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    I agree, and I have told him that more than twice that he will be fine as long as he just exercises common sense, but he says he can't imagine having to stay out of certain areas for a given time period because in Canada you can walk anywhere you want at any time and feel safe. Sure dude, sure.
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