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    I see. However we were talking about how hubristic and arrogant the British were for using their entire fleet to enforce a domestic law, yes?
    I wasn't but yes, sounds good.

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    Show me another time in history that this has been done. Moreover please furnish me with an example of any country in the world that operated for the whole of humanity.
    America! Daisy Yeah! America!

    Incidentally they have a very similar self-image to yours, now they seem a bit tame in comparison though since they're more willing to make up for their slavery mistakes of the past instead of talking about how they made up for it by saving us all from communist slavery.

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    I wont go on about the moral stance we took not so long ago that also served the whole of humanity.

    Perfect? No. Not by a long stretch. Malevolent? Certainly not.
    In this, our british-capitlist world, only the results matter. "We had a really good intention" isn't an excuse for utterlyfailing the goal to top slavery. The excuse has never been accepted for the Americans in Afghanistan and we shouldn't accept it for the British and their failure to stop slavery completely either. We're not in lieberal lalaland here where we tell children the only thing that matters is that they tried and had good intentions, they'll become wussies that way.


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    In this, our british-capitlist world, only the results matter. "We had a really good intention" isn't an excuse for utterlyfailing the goal to top slavery. The excuse has never been accepted for the Americans in Afghanistan and we shouldn't accept it for the British and their failure to stop slavery completely either. We're not in lieberal lalaland here where we tell children the only thing that matters is that they tried and had good intentions, they'll become wussies that way.
    Wow, we're getting blamed for the failure to stop slavery completely now.

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    Wow, we're getting blamed for the failure to stop slavery completely now.
    If your sarcasm detector is completely broken, then yes, you are!


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    If your sarcasm detector is completely broken, then yes, you are!
    So what's your point? That we're to blame whatever happens, either for our taking part in the slavery business in the first place, for not doing more to redress it, or whatever argument best results in the conclusion that Britain is in the wrong? We've tried all sorts of solutions, from resettling captured slaves in Sierra Leone to getting out of where we weren't wanted to helping build infrastructure in places where we were asked for help. And despite all that, we have people living far away from these places telling us we're in the wrong. Yeah, right. Show me that Germany has done more to end slavery across the world, and your arguments might have some credence. Or alternatively, set aside a special fund of German tax money, and we'll happily spend it on any worthy cause of your choice, in whatever manner you wish. We'll couple it with whatever profuse apologies of your choice as well if you want.

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    So what's your point? That we're to blame whatever happens, either for our taking part in the slavery business in the first place, for not doing more to redress it, or whatever argument best results in the conclusion that Britain is in the wrong? We've tried all sorts of solutions, from resettling captured slaves in Sierra Leone to getting out of where we weren't wanted to helping build infrastructure in places where we were asked for help. And despite all that, we have people living far away from these places telling us we're in the wrong. Yeah, right. Show me that Germany has done more to end slavery across the world, and your arguments might have some credence. Or alternatively, set aside a special fund of German tax money, and we'll happily spend it on any worthy cause of your choice, in whatever manner you wish. We'll couple it with whatever profuse apologies of your choice as well if you want.
    My point was to let you know that the quote you got so worked up over was sarcasm and not meant seriously...


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    Various Wars on Things should convince you that it does not take too much effort to come up with a few examples.
    Name one.
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    Name one.
    The obvious example is the War on Drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Wow, we're getting blamed for the failure to stop slavery completely now.
    Must be a Saturday. I distinctly recall that on Saturdays it is always England's fault.
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    I always blame the parents meself.

    There's an old English saying that applies here.

    Never let a good deed go unpunished.

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    Last edited by InsaneApache; 10-19-2013 at 23:29.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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