Oh wow... Don't get me started on Thiaf/Teef I've been a fan of Total Wars since I came late to the party with Rome 1 around 2010.

With Garrett? Things are different there. I grew up with the guy. I played the TDP demo on my first computer, oggling at the 14'' ProView monitor (also known as "ProRadiatonEmitter") and listening to the guard's banter and footsteps. If I'm a TW fan then Thief is in my blood and soul. And the scary thing is that NuThief is being develped for the drooling console masses with contextual climbing and rope arrows, headshot XP (glad they got rid of that!) and a new goth Garrett with a new voice actor.

I'll still play the game but whilst I see the positive in Rome II because the core of what makes Rome TW a good TW game is still there... I'm getting the feeling that what makes Thief a good Thief game won't be there for the new title.

/OOC off

Also, paging @Vuk and @frogbeastegg since they're Thief fans too!