Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
And why does America have so many criminals compared to all other countries?
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You started your post by claiming that America has a whole lot more criminals than European countries and that's why you have a higher prison population. And you end it by saying Europeans are not doing anything better. Why do we have fewer criminals then?
These are two different topics. People who quote the prison numbers relative to Europe are arguing that they are themselves proof of a poor justice system. But they aren't for the reason I mentioned. The question of why we have more criminals in America is not really related to why our justice system is harsher. We made our system harsher in response to a crime wave.

How is it incorrect? He had served his time for all his previous crimes, got arrested for an alleged crime he did not really commit and was still sentenced for it? Why?
If you keep committing crimes, the penalties should increase. But I think you are being deliberately stubborn here. The aclu infographic does simply say that he was given life in jail for borrowing a truck, does it not? And yet he had been convicted of armed robbery, check fraud, and "unintentionally" killing someone in a knife fight (was he trying to stab to wound???). It's very unlikely that he was caught and convicted for every crime he committed, so likely he committed more. That makes the aclu's claim blatant propaganda.


He was found to have a personality disorder, that's why he got the lower sentence. Again your quotes omit information.

His "personality disorder" was that he worshipped steffi graf, and wanted to injure monica seles because she was graf's main competitor. Why would that get him a lower sentence? What's the difference between that and someone obsessed with racial or religious issues, who tries to kill someone on that account? What's the difference between that and someone watching about of al-quaeda propaganda videos and letting off a bomb at a marathon? Anyway, you don't just have a "personality disorder" like that. He chose over the years to obsess over steffi graf, to live vicariously through her successes and defeats.

Allowing psychiatrists to pretend like their expertise applies to moral questions like this happens in american courts too however. That's why minimum sentencing laws are important.

He also didn't go on stabbing a lot of other people or showed more criminal behavior, so what's the point? Locking up mentally challenged people for once in a lifetime incidents? Maybe Seles could have gotten better counseling if America had had a proper healthcare system since her psychological injuries were much greater than the negligible physical ones she got from the incident.
like I said, you are completely confused about justice. Seles is completely right to be outraged that he was not punished. Without him being punished there is no justice.

If his obsession with steffi graf had lead to him raping her instead of stabbing seles, would you still want him on probation? With "counseling" for her "psychological injuries" since her physical ones were "negligable"?