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    Dragonslayer Emeritus Senior Member Sigurd's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I had a closer look at the site you provided Xiahou. This report was interesting. I'll just quote a single sentence to ram my point in this thread home:
    I have been thinking about the barley ears they found on Greenland. It is well known that you can't grow grains on Greenland, they won't produce mature grains.
    So they found a few burnt ears at the bottom of a dung heap. Conclusion was that it had to be the remains of something growing there as nobody would export full ears.
    Haven't seen in any report a judgement of the maturity of these barley ears. where they harvested as full barley or merely failed crops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Haven't seen in any report a judgement of the maturity of these barley ears. where they harvested as full barley or merely failed crops?
    The kernels were charred and about 2 mm wide or so. An Icelandic dung had similar sized kernels and it looks like that is good enough for their conclusion of a "complete Scandinavian agro-pastoral package"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    The kernels were charred and about 2 mm wide or so. An Icelandic dung had similar sized kernels and it looks like that is good enough for their conclusion of a "complete Scandinavian agro-pastoral package"
    That paper only refers to use of grain as animal fodder, however.
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    Forget about your wheat fields Tore, prepare to ingest the godly diet of sheep like the rest of us in the real world. The Chinese are forcing you to become a west lander or at least live under the same weather conditions as us. Cretaceous - here we come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Forget about your wheat fields Tore, prepare to ingest the godly diet of sheep like the rest of us in the real world. The Chinese are forcing you to become a west lander or at least live under the same weather conditions as us. Cretaceous - here we come.
    What do you call a westerner with a sheep under each arm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    What do you call a westerner with a sheep under each arm?

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    BAAAAAhd joke. Loved it.
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    One of those Welsh and New Zealand jokes apply to Norway as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    That paper only refers to use of grain as animal fodder, however.
    No, it says maybe and perhaps. In the conclusion they write that most likely the animals had grazed on harvested fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    No, it says maybe and perhaps. In the conclusion they write that most likely the animals had grazed on harvested fields.
    You need to harvest fodder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    You need to harvest fodder.
    And? What are you arguing about? That the barley was too poor for human consumption? That barley was only used for animals? Not what the paper is saying nor does it fit with what AFAIK Icelanders were using barley for.

    The grain size, and the conclusions of the paper, would suggest that the Greenland barley was ripe. And that is what Sigurd was wondering about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    That the barley was too poor for human consumption? That barley was only used for animals?
    The paper doesn't conclude on either of those, and that* was all I was trying to highlight.

    *the uncertainty
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