And the fact that NK's neighbors like China and Russia really don't want the headache of dealing with nuclear fallout on their borders.Originally Posted by Myth
Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
And the fact that NK's neighbors like China and Russia really don't want the headache of dealing with nuclear fallout on their borders.
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Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
His his nukes are so weaksauce that the fallout will be insignificant. Unless he blows up a nuclear power plant with it or something.
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Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
Given the wind patterns, wouldn't Japan and the US to a lesser extent get the worst fallout?
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Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
Perhaps, but China wouldn't want any at all. Or even a possibility of it.
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Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
Too many variables to calculate properly. Yes, the prevailing winds do trend that direction -- a fact Japan used in its balloon bombing campaign in WW2 -- but precipitation, specific physical composition of ground zero for particulates, specific type of explosion, etc. would all factor into how much fallout, how dangerous, and how far it would spread.
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Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
Look at it this way. A bunch of armed men are sitting in a circle with shotguns. There is no love lost amongst any of them. Would any one of them willingly give up their gun?
Of course nukes are weapons of mass destruction and would probably bring about the end of mankind blah blah blah, but seriously, what country would give up their ace in the hole just to stay on the moral high ground? Specially if the chances of everyone else giving up theirs are non existent....
Personally I think nukes are dangerous and if they ever fall into the hands of suicidal extremists that would be a really bad day. But until then no one who isn't suicidal will actually use one, just because they are so dangerous.
Also China and India follow a no first use doctrine, which many other NPT nations don't.
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Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
Doctrines ain't worth the paper they are written on in such uncivilized states.
Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
Umm...Doctrines aren't written on paper. Unlike treaties. To put it simply, they are more like a plan. Or something the plan is based on.
So unless you're basically saying that the uncivilized states don't intend to follow their own plans, your statement makes no sense.
Also I'd rather not get into debating who's civilized or what civilization means because that's moot, and usually ends with arguments which are little more than 'mine is bigger than yours'.
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Re: Why does Israel get to keep its nuclear weapons?
Thanks for the lesson, I wasn't aware of that
And you are right about the second part as well, note however that I rank India FAR above China in that regard *India is still not IMHO quite up to European standards*
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