Being assaulted and robbed isn't very much fun at all

[Hax]

I have seen it. You don't have to tell me that it isn't culturally related, my (blonde-haired) girlfriend stayed with me for a week in Paris and she was harassed several times. I live near Clichy, and she couldn't even go down the street to pick me up from the metro station without being harassed, by (you guessed it) Arabs. I know fully well that there are a lot of things wrong with the way women are treated in Arab culture. So get off it.

What you don't really seem to get is that the way women are perceived and objectified runs much, much deeper than that. Remember when that girl was raped by those teen football or baseball heroes or whatever in the U.S.? They weren't Arab, or Mexican, or whatever. The denigration of women in society -- and I think it's in a large part due to the way women are treated in porn -- goes much deeper than whatever is wrong with whatever foreign culture you dislike.

Consider the fact that a girl can't even put a photograph of herself on some websites without being called a whore. Think about it for a second. Think about what it implies.

[Sigurd]

I think we can say that there is less sex in action movies...

But I wouldn't agree that the terms "slut" and "whore" have changed to more conservative terms. I would say they have turned into everyday terms now, like the terms "stupid" or "dumbass". Ie. terms frequently said between friends as signs of affection as opposed to ill will. The scenario where one girl will jokingly call another girl "whore" without any ill intent is very common, starting around age 13.

Consider the fact that a girl can't even put a photograph of herself on some websites without being called a whore. Think about it for a second. Think about what it implies.

As Whore Sven stated, whore might not mean what you think it means.

[Fragony]

Whore means exactly what it says, I worked with 'whores', I just had to make sure nobody harmed them. They didn't like it to be called one because they worked in the sex-industry, it's really insulting to call someone a whore. It's a really degenerating thing to say. I get kinda infuriated if a women gets called a whore, even if they actually are a whore it isn't very classy.

Edit, I have been a whore by the way, I sometimes did the female clients when I wasn't there for just protecting. Yep, I have an interesting life.

[HoreTore]

Whore means exactly what it says, I worked with 'whores', I just had to make sure nobody harmed them. They didn't like it to be called one because they worked in the sex-industry, it's really insulting to call someone a whore. It's a really degenerating thing to say. I get kinda infuriated if a women gets called a whore, even if they actually are a whore it isn't very classy.

Edit, I have been a whore by the way, I sometimes did the female clients when I wasn't there for just protecting. Yep, I have an interesting life.

Well, you call me a whore every time you write my nick...

("Hore" is "whore" in Norwegian)

[Fragony]

Well, you call me a whore every time you write my nick...

("Hore" is "whore" in Norwegian)

More than my nick, actually been one. Only females. It's one of the reasons that I don't look down on the profession.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

To English speakers, "whore" carries a negative connotation, but not heavily so. It is used more as a pejorative reference for non-sex workers. When applied to a sex-worker, the term takes on a more descriptive connotation. I have no idea as to the connotations applied in Dutch or Norwegian.

[drone]

More than my nick, actually been one. Only females. It's one of the reasons that I don't look down on the profession.

You would be called a gigolo, not a whore. Yet another victory for sexual double standards!

[Fragony]

You would be called a gigolo, not a whore. Yet another victory for sexual double standards!

We just called them girls or ladies, but certainly not whores. It was all really nice really, no harm at all.

Edit, I will have a photo gigelo Fragony soon, it just needs to be scanned. We hired a cruise, phots coming.

[Sarmatian]

Frags used to sell teh love?!?!?!?

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[Fragony]

Frags used to sell teh love?!?!?!?

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Well yeah, guilty. But I was mainly protection for the girls. Friend of mind is scanning some pics out of the old days, I am on one in full force, you will laugh your ass of if you see it, not a bit wrong but very wrong. We hired a (small) cruise, got a few pics of that one as well. I organised itso I am on some pictures, promise that you won't hold it against me if you see it.

[BroskiDerpman]

Frags used to sell teh love?!?!?!?

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[Fragony]

You are welcome to ask. It's very cozy really, the harm is not in sexclubs et etc. where things get really cynical is where it isn't really allowed but merely tolerated, nobody takes care of them as it's an accepted grey area. Fix that. I am no longer into this but I can tell you how things work.

[Kadagar_AV]

As much as I like the rabbid atmosphere of the BR at large, I must admit I met my (very personal) limit here.

I honestly quite like the thing we have going here though, so I obviously don't want any rules changed.

However, I have come to terms with this being the wrong forum for more personal issues.

HT has lost my respect... In a way that I don't see as repairable.

I hope I have, and I sure think I will, treat every member showing a personal side of things with some respect. I might (by all means) flame their position hard, sure. But then I usually follow it up with a PM being more elaborate, to make sure they don't see it as personal. Quite a lot of you have got those over the years.

Thank you all for caring, but I will bow out of this thread, mods please close, would you so mind.

Let's leave it behind us, as it feels like a stain on these otherwise nice boards.