Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?

[Fragony]

Having read up I got to agree with Horetore about these guys, sounds like the real thing

[Kadagar_AV]

Having read up I got to agree with Horetore about these guys, sounds like the real thing

What part about it should keep me from listening?



AGAIN: I in no way endorse their view. I just like to hear what their political stance is without anything between me and them.

I think the drone quote was spot on.

[Fragony]

What part about it should keep me from listening?



AGAIN: I in no way endorse their view. I just like to hear what their political stance is without anything between me and them.

I think the drone quote was spot on.

I understand your motivations are different, would still avoid them myself though. Wouldn't do them the favour.

[HoreTore]

Yeah, it really was of benefit to German democracy that the Nuremburg rallies went unmolested by filthy lefties.

Noone is preventing SvP from having a demonstration. It is within their rights. Likewise, noone can prevent a counter-demonstration.

Kaagar's view of democracy and free speech is that we allow Nazi rallies, but ban counter-demonstrations. What a delightfully delusional view of how free speech works.

Re the need for interpretation: Kadagar missed the obvious references to jew-bashing clouded within SvP's politico-speech, and then claims no interpretation is needed and that everyone understands exactly what they are saying. Yay.

[Fragony]

Yeah, it really was of benefit to German democracy that the Nuremburg rallies went unmolested by filthy lefties.

Noone is preventing SvP from having a demonstration. It is within their rights. Likewise, noone can prevent a counter-demonstration.

Kaagar's view of democracy and free speech is that we allow Nazi rallies, but ban counter-demonstrations. What a delightfully delusional view of how free speech works.

These counter-demonstration are almost always violent, Kads has a better balanced view on free speech I'd say.

Kads quotes Voltaire, I quote Churchil; the facists of the future will be called anti-facists.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

In no way should their rally be prevented.

Curtailing their rights to speech is only justifiable when and if they begin to create a "clear and present" danger to the community. Incitement to violence should be stopped. Statements of any creed -- even a demonstrably stupid one like this party's -- do not automatically equate that.

The 10,000 opponents should show up, completely surround the silly little we wanna be racists rally at about 15m distance, and silently -- just as the rally commences -- turn and face away. Do that twice with the Swede media watching and they will opt out of public rallys of their own choice...so as not to be humiliated.

[Kadagar_AV]

These counter-demonstration are almost always violent, Kads has a better balanced view on free speech I'd say.

Kads quotes Voltaire, I quote Churchil; the facists of the future will be called anti-facists.

That's kind of spot on. Then again, Churchill wasn't really a n00b.

In no way should their rally be prevented.

Curtailing their rights to speech is only justifiable when and if they begin to create a "clear and present" danger to the community. Incitement to violence should be stopped. Statements of any creed -- even a demonstrably stupid one like this party's -- do not automatically equate that.

The 10,000 opponents should show up, completely surround the silly little we wanna be racists rally at about 15m distance, and silently -- just as the rally commences -- turn and face away. Do that twice with the Swede media watching and they will opt out of public rallys of their own choice...so as not to be humiliated.

Yey :)

I would totally support that line of action.

As is, I more than happily feel like taking a step out of my front door to protect real democracy, instead of the democrazy Ironside and others propose.

[Kralizec]

Yeah, it really was of benefit to German democracy that the Nuremburg rallies went unmolested by filthy lefties.

Odd example. The Weimar republic was a dysfunctional democracy and one clear sign of that was very frequent clashes between militant sympathizers of reactionary parties and communists.

Nothing wrong with counter-demonstrations per se, though. If the Swedish police do their job and ensure that these 'nazis' can hold their rally, fine.

[Beskar]

You should attend it as a Republican.

[HopAlongBunny]

Attend it, sure.
Just remember your "observer status" means nothing to the droogs who are just there for a fight.
They show up at all public gatherings from bars to rallies, and violence is what they want; make friends with the bouncers