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    Did someone actually killed someone following this comments? If yes, yes. I doubt that most of the Nazi leaders killed the Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and others themselves. Most of them in fact didn't, they just were of the opinion all theses others had to be either enslaved or killed. So were Hitler, Himmler, and others actually guilty of murder? If I follow you and others no. In French Laws, yes, as they are the instigators (in UK laws as well, as defined in the Case 1 in the Crown Court).
    A French author was find guilty after the Liberation for precisely this. You can't call day-in day-out for the Jews to be killed and be surprised when someone actually do it. It was HIS opinion that Jews should be killed, so some just did it, but, yeah, it was JUST an opinion...

    And to anser to you remark, no racism is not an opinion, as stated in French Constitution: "France shall be an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic. It shall ensure the equality of all citizens before the law, without distinction of origin, race or religion".
    So pretending that one race is superior to an other is against the Law.

    I might of an opinion to kill you. But until I do it, or someone do it for me, it is an opinion. Now, if I kill you. it stop to be an opinion, as if someone do it following my call.
    When someone was killed unlawfully following calls to kill, and you carrying on in inciting more violence, or justifying the murder, yes, you are guilty. When you glorify a racist obscurantist killer for what he did, when you incite in racial and religious violences. That is in the law. It is up to a Court to decide if it was a bad joke, or a real threat. And yes, to incite others to burn Mosques or attack Muslims is a offense. And numbers are not an excuse for not prosecuting. Mob law, lynch law are illegal. You might thing it is a opinion to burn or discriminate minorities, well, not in France and in my experience not in UK.
    Last edited by Brenus; 18/01/15 at 11:51.
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