Ukraine Thread

[Brenus]

“and my awareness of the correct name of the 1812 arsonist is a proof)” Nope, that is an “proof” that you know to use research engine….

“you go on spouting vitriol only at me following the logics: "If he doesn't understand something - lacks brains, if he (as I believe) doesn't know something - he is know-nothing, if he expresses a different view of things - he is an obsurantist nazi".” Can I remind you who start this? By the way, obscurantist and Nazi is a pleonasm.

“If France is full with the likes of you, I don't wonder you will have other Charlie Hebdo style accidents.” Thanks. You just confirm my judgement on your opinion and judgment capacities. The murdered ones deserved what happened to them… Was not an accident, it was a deliberate attack by obscurantist Muslim Fanatics. Not it matters for you, apparently.

“Any crying foul on how nazism flourishes in DNR?” Nope. Russians are known for anti-Semitism, I think the word pogrom comes for here. Wearing Nazi uniform is just a step forward that Ukrainian did. From you previous appreciation, I though you would call them extreme-nationalists. I am not sure of for classification, but it was something like this.

Ok, we clarified the burning of Moscow, I will go back to my indifference for this thread you awake me from, in putting my avatar’s name in.

[Viking]

The German and French leaders are starting to feel like they've had enough with Putin's unreliability.

[Gilrandir]

The German and French leaders are starting to feel like they've had enough with Putin's unreliability.

And Putin, perhaps, is showing the size of the gun he has at home... oops, the guns which are sold at supermarkets all over Russia.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Obama is now actively considering supplying arms to Ukraine: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31279621

Putin will pitch like a teenage girl but if he wasn't supplying the rebels they're be out of spare parts and ammo now, like the Ukrainian Army.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Obama is now actively considering supplying arms to Ukraine: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31279621

Putin will pitch like a teenage girl but if he wasn't supplying the rebels they're be out of spare parts and ammo now, like the Ukrainian Army.

It will happen, but will change little. Merkel will have assuaged German sensibilities on the issue and Obama will still be replaced in two years.

[Gilrandir]

Putin will pitch like a teenage girl but if he wasn't supplying the rebels they're be out of spare parts and ammo now

And men and fuel.

Merkel will have assuaged German sensibilities on the issue and Obama will still be replaced in two years.

Two years is eternity for both Ukraine and Putin. As the precipitate winter offensive shows, Putin feels his time is running short or at least shorter than he had hoped for.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

The Winter Offensive might just be the the Russians attacking early to get a jump on the Ukrainian Army, I confess I wasn't expecting the offensive to start until at least mid-February, more likely March.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

And men and fuel.


Two years is eternity for both Ukraine and Putin. As the precipitate winter offensive shows, Putin feels his time is running short or at least shorter than he had hoped for.

Putin is a chess player. Simply trying to consolidate the gain in the time frame he has left before his own people are fed up with affairs as they are. He won't go much further after this -- because he needs to consolidate, not because of much of what the West is doing.

[Gilrandir]

“and my awareness of the correct name of the 1812 arsonist is a proof)” Nope, that is an “proof” that you know to use research engine….

So only you can really know something, others (especially those you don't like) only google it. What a conceit!

“If France is full with the likes of you, I don't wonder you will have other Charlie Hebdo style accidents.” Thanks. You just confirm my judgement on your opinion and judgment capacities. The murdered ones deserved what happened to them…

Again distortion. More than once I said I was sorry for the victims. I wanted others (since you apparently won't) to see that for modern France the choice is get polite or get armed. CH did neither. Now France seems to have opted for the latter. And it is good. If it can't grow decency, it has at least started growing some common sense (albeit at the cost of freedom and security measures expenses).

“Any crying foul on how nazism flourishes in DNR?” Nope. Russians are known for anti-Semitism, I think the word pogrom comes for here.

1. What a piece of generalized xenophobia! All Russians are? It is like claiming that the French are known for alcohol (notably wine) abuse.
2. Zakharchenko is not Russian. Although, he apparently doesn't consider himself Ukainian either.

Wearing Nazi uniform is just a step forward that Ukrainian did.

We have had a discussion on uniforms way back, so I won't enter a sequel of it. But if you think that wearing any uniform is much more terrible that hating other nations... But at least you NOW admit that nazis are in DNR (and at the head of the "state" too).

Ok, we clarified the burning of Moscow, I will go back to my indifference for this thread you awake me from, in putting my avatar’s name in.

Like I said, the burning of Moscow was clear to me at least in the 6th grade, but if you say so... Go back to sleep, sweet dreams and let no obscurantists/nazis enter them.
Meanwile for all you night walkers out there - a new interception by SBU.
http://espreso.tv/news/2015/02/07/pe...quot_z_donbasu
In it a Russian officer (nickname CHIEF), responsible for dealing with the killed in Donbas Russian military, upbraides an official of DPR for issuing death certificates which have Donetsk morgues' seals on them. He says that he has several hundreds of such certificates which create problems for him since his job is to conceal the cases. He insisits that the dead must not come in zincs and the death certificates must not mention Ukraine as the site of death. Such caskets should be sent only to a specific military unit's location where he will forge (sic!) the neccessary documents. He is very much vexed with the fact that undesirable death certificates appear from time to time in different Russian cities (he mentioned St. Petersburg and Krasnoyarsk). Cheif is also dissatisfied with the fact that journalists are prowling about Rostov sniffing out unpleasant truth which the families of the dead are likely to reveal to them for some remuneration.