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    Hey, Lugiones (peoples of Przeworsk culture) is the most probably a germanic people (with celtic influence), not Baltic (the majority of Polish archeologist to think so).

    Przeworsk culture has a relationship with Jastorf (Suebian) culture and arise in uninhabited area of earlier Pomeranian culture. Baltic people (Aesti?) represent in this time a West-Baltic cairn culture in North-East Poland, Kaliningrad oblast and Lithuania, their represented a late bronze age culture.

    Sorry for my bad English. I hope you will understand what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarrr View Post
    Hey, Lugiones (peoples of Przeworsk culture) is the most probably a germanic people (with celtic influence), not Baltic (the majority of Polish archeologist to think so).

    Przeworsk culture has a relationship with Jastorf (Suebian) culture and arise in uninhabited area of earlier Pomeranian culture. Baltic people (Aesti?) represent in this time a West-Baltic cairn culture in North-East Poland, Kaliningrad oblast and Lithuania, their represented a late bronze age culture.

    Sorry for my bad English. I hope you will understand what I mean.
    Based on extensive research I designed the Lugii (from the Latin) faction. I also had a great deal of input into the development of the early Swabian faction as well. In fact the Jastorf culture began as a local expression of the Pomeranian culture and didn't actually demonstrate what may considered non-Celtic or something not directly associated with the Pomeranian culture, until the Ripdorf phase or Letene C around 300 BC. However, it was not until the Seedorf phase or Letene D, around the late 2nd century BC when the first traits possibly associated with the Swabian/Suevi or what may be considered early Germanic-speakers first appears in the lower Elbe region. Researchers have associated these new traits with the ethno-genesis of the historic Longobardoz, one of the main tribes of the early Swabians/Suevi confederation.

    As you may know from history the Suevi tribes, as a people associated with Old High German, were eventually pushed off the lower Elbe with some finding new homes in Bohemia, Bavaria, Austria, Swabia, Hesse, Switzerland, and others as far afield as northern Italy and Spain. Yet in mythological terms the various historic Swabians claimed a descent from northern Scandinavia, and a massive amount of archaeological research conduced in the last 20 years is only now beginning to confirm.

    For the most part I wrote an extensive overview of the late Bronze to early Iron Age archaeology of Greater Germania, as defined by the Romans. However its inclusion within EB II was not practical. Nonetheless, from the archaeology its very clear that by the Late Bronze Age Greater Germania was dominated by two linguistic groups; the P-Celts with two main subdivisions (Noric/Volcae or east-Celts in the south and west and the Brythonic/Belgae in the north and west) and the Balts with two main subdivisions (west-Balts in the north and center and the east-Balts in the east extending into Greater Scythia). Much later what eventually became known as Slav developed in the seam between the east-Balts and the Indo-Iranians while German-speakers developed in the seam between the west-Balts, and Sami people of northern Scandinavia to include the west-Germanic later merging with Celtic Volcae, Belgae, and Gaulish peoples. If you like I may be convinced to post this information here. It also deals with linguistics and addresses the commonality found in Celt, Baltic, and Norse mythology.
    Last edited by cmacq; 03-24-2015 at 10:14.
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