Does anyone even listen to creationists these days?

[Sigurd]

Well, if the carbon dating is wrong, what else is?

*cough*

He also split the reed sea to allow the israelites to escape the egyptians and so on. And yes, Rhyfelwyr is apparently arguing that he did indeed create the entire universe in the timespan of 6 modern days 7000 years ago. The all powerful god the bible describes could do all the things you mention, he even flooded the entire earth and killed everyone but the guy in a huge boat to whom he sent pairs of all animals somehow magically. I mean all powerful is taken very literally, he also let fire rain onto a city or two in order to destroy it and kill everyone inside. Not exactly someone you'd want to mess with because he sets the standard for morality and does these things to people who do not listen while he rewards those who love him and his standards.

All these OT miracles are in the realm of natural laws and could be performed by a scientific advanced race (not suggesting anything here).

So either the book is not very literal on the early days, our loving god did some weird things or my logic is failing me.

Exactly. Creationism in its current form doesn't make sense. And there are Creationists and creationists. One adhere to the literal 6 24h periods the other to 6 periods of unknown years.

During my debate with Rhy in the Trinitarianism thread, I realized that my Bible skills were lacking, so I am currently on a break to rearm these skills and I have started reading the thing again. One thing that caught my eye, is the precise time something takes - 40 days, 40 years - again and again the same numbers. Why not 34 or 63? Investigating further - its not exact times. They are code for a type of preparation. 40 should be substituted with sufficient or probationary. It is the time it took to get to the finish line however long that actually was.

6 is the unfinished number the "just not perfect" number, while 7 is the sign of perfection. How that plays into the creation story - is still uncovered territory.

edit: BTW - my current theory of why dinosaurs? The earth needed fertilization.