Does anyone even listen to creationists these days?

[Gilrandir]

I was referring to the theory that consciousness and all these things are just a side-effect of the TTBS, I donb't have the time to investigate and think about how that relates to an age-old definition of mind, which is probably wrong and outdated. I also don't think the nerves in the spinal cord or in the eyes came up with the idea for agriculture. But if you insist you can replace brain with mind and it won't invalidate my point that similar systems (see, even more generic now) with similar input are likely to yield similar output if the number of systems and therefore processes is big enough.

In fact, the mind/brain semantics is irrelevant for this debate of ours. What I tried to show with my examples is that similar input and similar "things in the head" don't always produce similar output and vice versa - similar input and different TITH don't always mean different output. Are you still following me?

In the meantime, the discussion is starting to go round in circles a bit, so maybe its best just to leave it at that.

I would say that anti-creationists were debating with ant-creationists. Can't call it a genuine debate.

One thing that caught my eye, is the precise time something takes - 40 days, 40 years - again and again the same numbers. Why not 34 or 63?

Perhaps they counted by tens.