Ukraine Thread

[Gilrandir]

Gilrandir will not agree, but this is a fact. No resistance at all was even tried, really.

If you mean military resistance, then I do agree with you. Why I shoudn't?
But there is an essential "but": many people here who are of the like mind with you were keeping their fingers crossed hoping that it would not come to blows. And it didn't - for many reasons, primarily because such an attack from "strategic partners and brehtren" was incredible in the eyes of Ukrianian soldiers, because many of those soldiers were locals from the Crimea, because everyone didn't wish for any "fratricidal" bloodshed... You had what you prayed for. And now you sound contemptuous that the Ukrainians didn't offer any (military) resistance. Would it make you happier if they had?

How can someone or something be "most lethal" out of a group then?
Wouldn't the most lethal thing be more lethal than the others?

Lethal means "bringing/causing death". You can't bring more death - a human dies only once. You can speak of something causing more casualties.

Yes, how is demonizing Putin going to get us there? In my opinion all the Hitler-comparisons suggest that we can only stop him through all-out war, by bringing Russia to its knees and then making it bend over backwards.

Putin himself now and again adds to this much-hated (by you) comparison. About a week ago in Russia a film was released to celebrate the Crimea's annexation - I'm sure you are aware of it. It is called "The Crimea: the road to Motherland". Do you know the name of the film released in 1941 to justify/celebrate Danzig's annexation? - "Heimkehr". Deliberately or involuntarily Putin - both by his actions and by his propaganda techniques and devices - follows the pattern set eighty years ago. So it is natural for people to draw the comparison mentioned.

Do you know something we don't?

I see the pattern of the EU reactions to events in Ukraine and make conclusions.

Nah - Putin is, as you say, a fascist. He's posturing out of a position of weakness. The more he loses, the more he has to commit, or else its international humiliation, domestic privation, and potentially his own ouster.

I would say the opposite - the more he is allowed to do, the more it whets his appetite. But at the same time he is aware that he can't vomit out what he has already swallowed - because of the reputational damage. So it is a dead end for him - he can't digest the piece he has in his stomach, but he can't get it out without being ridiculed and despised by his electors.

Meh, why does half of South America and the Middle East hate the USA? Does that make the USA just as evil and aggressive or even more so?

People who live in the close vicinity to a superpower are likely to hate it. The Middle East hates the USA by proxy - as the country supporting their local superpower - Israel.

Trust me, everyone involved is looking for a convenient pretext to de-escalate.

Putin had plenty of chances to, yet he didn't use any of them, and I'm afraid he will not.