Clarkson gone!

[Sarmatian]

Bother.

I wasnt driving at anthing in particular with the first 2, I was baiting, and I am somewhat dissapointed that I hooked the moderate and not the fringe.

I don't understand who you actually wanted to bait. The Org is generally a moderate discussion board. I would have answered it in the same way as Moody, but he saved me the trouble.

If most Feminists want equality, that's great, I'd love to see it, but to uplift themselves they shouldnt have to drag men down to do it, and the impression that is given when people like sarkeesian keep showing up in the news or on television instead of moderates is that all feminists want to do so.

It's very hard to be a moderate when most people don't even perceive a problem. You have been consistently arguing "how she says stuff" instead of "why she says stuff". You didn't acknowledge that there is an issue to discuss here - you tried to discredit her rather than admit it. Since that failed, you've been consistently "upping the ante", coming with all new ways to show just how wrong her examples were. That just put you on a downward spiral.

When we reach the point that majority of people understand that there is a problem, there won't be need for people like Sarkeesian any more, and moderates will take over.