Re: A Freedom Act?
Yes - a lot of drama and sparring how exciting! The baddies tried their tricks and only the White Knights managed to make it end a victory... where a judge rubber stamps requests behind closed doors and the public don't even know what requests were made.
Dress it up as fantastic democracy, but the Government still gets to do as it wishes.
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Re: A Freedom Act?
This misses the entire pointOriginally Posted by rory_20_uk
Yes - a lot of drama and sparring how exciting! The baddies tried their tricks and only the White Knights managed to make it end a victory... where a judge rubber stamps requests behind closed doors and the public don't even know what requests were made.
Dress it up as fantastic democracy, but the Government still gets to do as it wishes.
Re: A Freedom Act?
What is the point? Everyone was upset by the revalation, something has been done and everyone can go back to sleep whist the system does the same thing in a slightly different way.
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Re: A Freedom Act?
The difference now is the paper trail and the timeline. IIRC, the telecons throw stuff out after 18 months, while before it was being kept for eternity (at taxpayer cost, in huge data centers). Also, with a warrant (even a rubberstamped FISA one), there is a paper trail at both the government and corporate level, so requesting the telephone records of political opponents gets a little more risky, and parallel construction through fishing ends. I don't really care about the feds knowing who I call, since I'm a nobody, but those two abuses are the big threats which will hopefully end.
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Re: A Freedom Act?
OK. On those grounds I accept the difference.
In future, they'll have to ask MI6 to dig up the dirt
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"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
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