Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
If it's OK for them to be barbarians why isn't it OK for us?

Personally, I would ban covering the face in public places but make it legal on the street - that way you can wear a scarf when it's cold but when you come inside you take it off.

Currently watching a documentary on this and what comes through is that the Muslim women don't appreciate that the face veil specifically is highly offensive to a lot of Britons. That's not to say that the violent attacks and verbal abuse are in any way justified, they're not, but it's clear the gulf of understanding is on both sides.
I've worn a balaclava outside when it was really, really cold. As soon as I was inside, I took it off. Same with the scarf raised to cover the nose. Always combined with thick gloves and lots of layers of clothing. All of which tended to be sympathetically laughed at by onlookers, who recognised the cold but were perhaps not quite so extremely affected.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
Who said it's okay? I want to welcome them to Germany if they are sick and tired of their dictatorships and the oppression. The hijab has little to do with that as long as they want to wear it.
And the more important question is, do you want to be a barbarian and live among them?

Then I would also ban goth clothing, punk haircuts, not having hair at all and other clear symbols of people who obviously despise our mainstream societies and do not want to be part of them. And then we should burn all the books that criticize the mainstream society, jail all computer hackers and people who use encryption or passwords because we are an open society and the internet is a very public place.
And since I don't trust people who do ungodly things behind closed curtains, ban curtains, too.
Some things fit the definition of being socially undesirable, but since they grew up here, they get more of a pass (although hoodies are synonymous with juvenile delinquents, to the point of being satirised in Hot Fuzz). If these things are socially undesirable and they've been imported here, why give them this free pass? It's not as though our society makes huge demands of them to fit in.