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    Default Re: ISIS on the offensive in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Eh?

    Arabs come from Arabia - Arabia was a backwater until the Caliph sent an army to conquer the Roman and Persian Empires. Long ago people went to Arabia but the Levantines are the descendants of the Hellanised Phoneticians, Semetics who didn't go. They were building military and trade Empires, and colonising the coast of Arabia, whilst the Bedoin were... well we don't know because irrc the Bedoin were pre-literate during this period - they learned writing from the descendent of the Phoneticians.

    It's also worth noting that the whole area was a lot less sandy in the pre-Islamic age.
    I want to know how you know.

    Bedu and desert dwellers predate all in the middle east. There were bedu in Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Sinai, and Sudan.
    Quote Originally Posted by rvg
    Not sure about the monopoly. As for the headscarves, in the 1970s Baghdad there were plenty of mini-skirts, but hardly any headscarves.
    Sorry I meant Islam as the most enduring legacy, not just specifically headscarves but the atmosphere overall. There's no denying Islam is engraved in the region even with non-Muslims who pass by and say "salaam alaikum," it's not religious any more it's just being Arab.
    Decided to take a quick look at the web just to see if things have changed from what I remember. They did not.
    Thats just weird to me. How can Coptics for example claim to be descendents of pharaonic Egyptians? It reeks of self-serving bs. Arabia itself is inhabited by Persians, Africans, khanates (baluchistan, pakistan, others), and yemenis (sabaeans). The truth is you cannot possibly know in a situation like the middle east, its not set in stone. Somehow tracing your ancestry that far back in the ME is farfetched, and fishy. But I hope they succeed in doing this, it's what Egypt should place more emphasis on. I hear Sisi is a strong supporter of it.
    Last edited by AE Bravo; 09-13-2015 at 02:03.

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