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    Default Re: ISIS on the offensive in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by HitWithThe5 View Post
    No it doesn't go that far back.
    We have Neanderthal DNA.

    There are just so many examples here that suggest they are older. The earliest sign of modern humans outside Africa was found in Jebel Faya, Arabian peninsula I believe. Um al Nar culture was a bronze age civilization, 2700-2000 BC. Desert dwellers and nomads were first across the region. It’s common sense actually. What do you think they did when the land was less arable? Move north obviously. That cycle has repeated itself throughout middle eastern history so there is no chance of homogeneity especially ancient civilization remnants. It's intermixed.

    Overcomplicating things. The majority of the Levant see themselves as Arabs. Different Arabs but Arabs. I don't where all this is coming from and it's a waste of time to entertain that thought when little to nobody in the region sees it the same way.
    Modern human in the UAE 125,000 years ago does not mean all people in the ME are descended from Bedouin. Is not the camel a key part of Bedoiun culture? Also woven cloth? Camels were not domesticated in the Levant until the Iron Age AFAIK and woven cloth is something generally thought to have been invented by settled peoples rather than hunters (who habitually wore skins of the animals they killed.

    Wikipedia have a bit on this re Camels: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel#Domestication

    If domestication of Camels begins in Mesopotamia and then spreads down into Arabia that suggests the people also spreads down - and it makes sense in so far as the first desert nomads are likely to be either settlers living on the fringes of civilisation who adapted to a more arid climate, or out and out exiles forced into the desert.

    Just an example of how your argument is backwards.

    I think this is where your idea came from in the first place. It makes little sense.
    People don't generally live in deserts if they can help it and hunter-gatherers cannot live in deserts at all, really, though they can live on the edge of them. Hunter gatherers live where food is plentiful, so near the sea, major rivers, forests etc. They don't tend to live in sand desert because, without relatively modern technology, it's too hard to live there.
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