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    Default Re: ISIS on the offensive in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    You failed at proving your point and decided to start your own argument as a tool of misdirection.

    I'll say this again: it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a healthy democracy where there are explicit, institutional violations of human rights.
    Yet another example of a straw man argument. I have said nothing about a 'healthy' democracy, I said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    If they are sincere in their talk about democracy, then that democracy provides an opening towards a better state.
    In other words, what matters is if they can vote for representatives that can alter the constitution, the legal frame work etc. - it doesn't matter whether or not adulterers are stoned to death at the time of voting any more than the amount of Syrian pounds they have to pay for speeding. There is an opening for change.

    Now if you could argue against what I said rather than what you imagine I said, that would be a massive improvement.

    The argument about what constitutes an islamist was a minor sub-thread that had nothing to do with the democracy line of debate.
    Last edited by Viking; 10-22-2015 at 20:14.
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