Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

[a completely inoffensive name]

Mock it if you want. When you and Kage get your boots on the ground and it doesn't do jack shit against the bigger threat, there will be threads on who mismanaged the troops and which country is to blame and Islamic extremists will only have more converts.

But you are right, when we all hold hands and get ISIS to "draw out to fight", we will turn the tide of this war.

What comes after that is a complete mystery.

How well thought out!

[Kagemusha]

Mock it if you want. When you and Kage get your boots on the ground and it doesn't do jack shit against the bigger threat, there will be threads on who mismanaged the troops and which country is to blame and Islamic extremists will only have more converts.

But you are right, when we all hold hands and get ISIS to "draw out to fight", we will turn the tide of this war.



How well thought out![/COLOR]

Im not mocking you,nor commenting your post in any way. im just predicting what is going to happen and i liked Hus posts because thought of sending ninjas is rather funny. Whats up with you Yanks as of late?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Im not mocking you,nor commenting your post in any way. im just predicting what is going to happen and i liked Hus posts because though of sending ninjas is rather funny. Whats up with you Yanks as of late?

My apologies then to both you and Husar. I think it's a bit touchy because us Yanks have been through a gamut of policies aimed at preventing Islamic terrorism both domestic and abroad and we are all frustrated because nothing we have done seems to work. None of us wants France and the EU to fall into the same trap the US did after 9/11. Just remember that Iraq was no better in 2012 than in 2006, the surge did not work, the TSA does not work, Afghanistan the country might as well be a collection of cities surrounded by Taliban controlled countryside.

[Kagemusha]

My apologies then to both you and Husar. I think it's a bit touchy because us Yanks have been through a gamut of policies aimed at preventing Islamic terrorism both domestic and abroad and we are all frustrated because nothing we have done seems to work. None of us wants France and the EU to fall into the same trap the US did after 9/11. Just remember that Iraq was no better in 2012 than in 2006, the surge did not work, the TSA does not work, Afghanistan the country might as well be a collection of cities surrounded by Taliban controlled countryside.

I think you are right that there is no magic solution to this can of worms. The thing is that ISIS just needs their teeth kicked in, because they want to kill us that bad. It is inevitable or soon all the cool kids in Europe think that joining them is the best deal ever.

What can be done afterwards is that the Kurds should get their state in order to balance the North Iraq and Syria somewhat.

Iraq may have to be split into several states. The Southern Shia and central Sunni will just not fit into one country.

If we can get free elections at Syria after defeating ISIS maybe Baath will actually win. Maybe Sunni parts of Iraq could be actually merged into Syria, or a new country be created.

None of that might not happen. Some might or all might, but it could still all go down the toilet. But what is certain is that ISIS cant be allowed to continue running around in their pseudo state.

[Montmorency]

Interestingly, Hollande's reactions may all be part of a confrontation between Merkel (i.e. Germany) in her insistence on a narrowly-utilitarian domestic and foreign policy for Europe - and more generally over France's role in the leadership of Europe.

It is true that Obama has basically ruled out participation in a ground coalition, and that both France and the US are still eager to sell weapons to the Saudis without criticism, so the one real political goal at stake here may well be a reassertion of France's leading role in the politics of Europe, uncharacteristically-muted as it has been over the past generations. After all, if Germany has managed to push through past all the many grumblings on its periphery, then France has to present an alternative in the one place where Germany refuses to: the military. Thus, Hollande proclaims that he will fund military ventures against ISIS (and beyond) regardless of violations of Euro-zone fiscal and monetary rules, and urges as many other European countries to join him in doing so. Reaching out to the US and Russia simultaneously is an indicator of how serious he is.

I wonder, then, if Obama is taking a Merkelian stance by refusing to join in, keeping faith in Germany to hold Europe together, holding out on disrupting relations with Saudi Arabia (even though he has clearly wanted to make a partnership with Iran)...

Regardless, Hollande is forcing many countries, including those more powerful than his own, to make some hard choices.

[Viking]

#JeSuisChien, the latest sign racist westerners care more about dead dogs than dead humans



The Onion should hire this guy. Salon delivers again.

Now excuse me while I go and write an angry article about all the people who died of gangrene this week, and whose stories didn't make it to international media.

[Montmorency]

#JeSuisChien, the latest sign racist westerners care more about dead dogs than dead humans



The Onion should hire this guy. Salon delivers again.

Now excuse me while I go and write an angry article about all the people who died of gangrene this week, and whose stories didn't make it to international media.

Even so, the incidental point of the article still stands: there is a funny disproportion in how popular sentiment manifests vis-a-vis humans coming to harm and other mammals (especially cat-dogs) coming to harm.

[Husar]

Mock it if you want. When you and Kage get your boots on the ground and it doesn't do jack shit against the bigger threat, there will be threads on who mismanaged the troops and which country is to blame and Islamic extremists will only have more converts.

But you are right, when we all hold hands and get ISIS to "draw out to fight", we will turn the tide of this war.



How well thought out![/COLOR]

Where did I mention "my" boots on the ground? I'd be the first to run away...

My apologies then to both you and Husar. I think it's a bit touchy because us Yanks have been through a gamut of policies aimed at preventing Islamic terrorism both domestic and abroad and we are all frustrated because nothing we have done seems to work. None of us wants France and the EU to fall into the same trap the US did after 9/11. Just remember that Iraq was no better in 2012 than in 2006, the surge did not work, the TSA does not work, Afghanistan the country might as well be a collection of cities surrounded by Taliban controlled countryside.

I talked to someone who said it is a full success because the US (and ultimately the NWO, who control the US) want to destabilize the EU with all the refugees in order to prevent it from rivalling the US. That's also why they ordered Merkel to let them all in. To have ISIS as a convenient scapegoat is part of the plan of course. I'm sure you agree because I also heard (from the same person) people from the US are even more critical of their government than Europeans.

[Montmorency]

I talked to someone who said it is a full success because the US (and ultimately the NWO, who control the US) want to destabilize the EU with all the refugees in order to prevent it from rivalling the US. That's also why they ordered Merkel to let them all in. To have ISIS as a convenient scapegoat is part of the plan of course. I'm sure you agree because I also heard (from the same person) people from the US are even more critical of their government than Europeans.

You heard it from me, personally.

Just doing my bit to divide and conquer.

[drone]

I talked to someone who said it is a full success because the US (and ultimately the NWO, who control the US) want to destabilize the EU with all the refugees in order to prevent it from rivalling the US. That's also why they ordered Merkel to let them all in. To have ISIS as a convenient scapegoat is part of the plan of course. I'm sure you agree because I also heard (from the same person) people from the US are even more critical of their government than Europeans.