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    Why did they exclude Northern Ireland for only the deaths?
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    The source didn't include those statistics and this happens often with many things not including Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is kind of its own autonomous entity within the Union, I guess kind of like Puerto Rico is to the United States missing out on things.
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    Then why include the NI population and estimated gun ownership numbers in the other stats? The last statistic is the important one, yet it only covers Great Britain.
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    Then why include the NI population and estimated gun ownership numbers in the other stats? The last statistic is the important one, yet it only covers Great Britain.
    Different sources of information, not that it matters much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Why did they exclude Northern Ireland for only the deaths?
    It would likely skew the results for one thing, and since the troubles stats on anything violence-related in NI have been either difficult to verify or politically charged.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    The source didn't include those statistics and this happens often with many things not including Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is kind of its own autonomous entity within the Union, I guess kind of like Puerto Rico is to the United States missing out on things.
    This is complete nonsense - NI is only about as autonomous as Wales - Scotland has far more autonomy. It has to gdo with the government facing non-co-operation and therefore having trouble getting stats that are accurate.

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    Then why include the NI population and estimated gun ownership numbers in the other stats? The last statistic is the important one, yet it only covers Great Britain.
    Same reason - bad stats. Likely they don't have an easy way to separate NI from those stats and no easy way to include them in the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    This is complete nonsense - NI is only about as autonomous as Wales - Scotland has far more autonomy. It has to gdo with the government facing non-co-operation and therefore having trouble getting stats that are accurate
    Not really...
    Many goods and services don't include Northern Ireland, always thought it was weird they slapped "Excludes Northern Ireland" on them because there is some water separating the border, but it is just how things are.
    They have their own electoral parties separated to the traditional British ones. Whilst Wales and Scotland has a +1, they have their own unique ones.
    In many matters, they pretty much have their own little corner and keep to themselves separate from the rest of Britain.
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    The first 3 stats on that graphic should be easy to exclude NI. Wiki says that NI has 1.8+ million people. Legally owned firearms I assume mean they are registered, even with the stereotypical rep of large scale British government IT projects it should be easy to get a stat for Great Britain alone. It's just lazy and disingenuous. "The Yanks are just uncivilized gun nuts intent on killing each other, we are so superior (just ignore that little corner over there...)."

    Even with NI gun violence added in I'm sure the US stats still crush it, but it reeks of piling on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Not really...
    Many goods and services don't include Northern Ireland, always thought it was weird they slapped "Excludes Northern Ireland" on them because there is some water separating the border, but it is just how things are.
    It was historically more expensive to do business in NI.

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