Futuramafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hello all.

Just powered through the last ten pages (36+ hours). Not really sure why there aren't competing wagons at the moment. I don't like this.

[Murska]

Urgh. Pizza has gone from 'getting worse' to 'seriously scummy' in the last few pages. But if I leave Stork now I'm going to keep suspecting him in the future and will beat myself up over it if and when he's lynched and turns out scum as well.

I'll switch. Being embarrassed isn't the worst thing that can happen. Let's hear that claim.

Unvote: Stork
Vote: ATPG

On the record I'd rather lynch both.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Urgh. Pizza has gone from 'getting worse' to 'seriously scummy' in the last few pages. But if I leave Stork now I'm going to keep suspecting him in the future and will beat myself up over it if and when he's lynched and turns out scum as well.

I'll switch. Being embarrassed isn't the worst thing that can happen. Let's hear that claim.

Unvote: Stork
Vote: ATPG

On the record I'd rather lynch both.

Ooh, hold that thought. Could be the start of some organized resistance...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ooh, hold that thought. Could be the start of some organized resistance...

Did a quick ISO of Murska, his progressions are natural enough (not many of them though). He's clear for now.

[Montmorency]

To me the fact that the wagons are stagnant and that people are talking a lot about how it's just these two or now but not doing anything makes me think that people don't want Stork to get lynched.

Almost incoherent wording here, but I guess you're just repeating your 'scum want to save Stork' shtick.

Otherwise it would be a trivial comment, right?

[Cuthillius]

Almost incoherent wording here, but I guess you're just repeating your 'scum want to save Stork' shtick.

Otherwise it would be a trivial comment, right?

I'm emphasizing.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Follow-up:

Granted, I've been miserable on the actual thread detective work in this game (lack of time, etc), but looking at it from a meta perspective, the real lack of any sort of organized resistance to a Stork lynch does not bode well IMO. The closest target is ATPG, whose motives seem legit but eh, I've just seen better from him.

And as for the people voting ATPG, I have Riedquat as lock town (there's no way mafia!Riedquat ever, ever makes those series of posts against CrimsonFox), and like Monty/Pelican for good overall content as well. So I don't see any scum effort in a misdirect there.

This leaves two possibilities:
1) ATPG is scum and is trying to lock this game down right now. He's certainly capable of doing this.
2) ATPG is wrong. He's absolutely capable of being this. ()

Gun to my head, I think Scenario 2 is the correct one here.

Vote: novice

[Murska]

This post is bloody terrible.

"I think Stork will flip Town. ATPG is being voted by towny people - he might be mafia or town. I'm going to say Town, and vote for a person who happens to have one vote on them instead of trying to hunt for someone who might actually be scum."

Calling ATPG and our good General here scum.

Follow-up:

Granted, I've been miserable on the actual thread detective work in this game (lack of time, etc), but looking at it from a meta perspective, the real lack of any sort of organized resistance to a Stork lynch does not bode well IMO. The closest target is ATPG, whose motives seem legit but eh, I've just seen better from him.

And as for the people voting ATPG, I have Riedquat as lock town (there's no way mafia!Riedquat ever, ever makes those series of posts against CrimsonFox), and like Monty/Pelican for good overall content as well. So I don't see any scum effort in a misdirect there.

This leaves two possibilities:
1) ATPG is scum and is trying to lock this game down right now. He's certainly capable of doing this.
2) ATPG is wrong. He's absolutely capable of being this. ()

Gun to my head, I think Scenario 2 is the correct one here.

Vote: novice

[GeneralHankerchief]

This post is bloody terrible.

"I think Stork will flip Town. ATPG is being voted by towny people - he might be mafia or town. I'm going to say Town, and vote for a person who happens to have one vote on them instead of trying to hunt for someone who might actually be scum."

Calling ATPG and our good General here scum.

How would this being true change your perception of Stork?

[Murska]

How would this being true change your perception of Stork?

If it were true, he'd be Town.

[GeneralHankerchief]

If it were true, he'd be Town.

Interesting, thanks.

Also your paraphrase of me was spot-on, but I'm not sure how it makes me mafia.

[Murska]

Interesting, thanks.

Also your paraphrase of me was spot-on, but I'm not sure how it makes me mafia.

Hm. The issue is that it's precisely the kind of thing mafia does - you're foreseeing a Town flip and distancing from that wagon while voting for a target that you don't really think is mafia, or at least haven't shown any effort attacking. It's also a good way to defend ATPG (set up a different target) without saying that you're defending him (by flip-flopping on 'he might be scum or not') so that if and when he or you get caught, the other one wouldn't be implicated.

As Town I'd expect the following thought process: "I think Stork is being pushed by mafia here. The counterwagon is ATPG, pushed by Towny folk." At this point there's a split - if you have time, you'll go "I'll analyze the Stork wagon to maybe find mafia there, put up a case to try and push them instead." If you're busy you'll go "I'll follow the people I think are Town on ATPG, though voice my concerns about the lack of other targets."

[Murska]

I absolutely must go to sleep very shortly in order to wake up early to potentially assassinate a bunch of my friends on campus.

This is unfortunate, because I'm really curious about how day end goes.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You just admitted to being mafia.

[Murska]

In case any of you are serious, or someone in the future skims things, I'm part of my campus Assassin's Guild and we're attempting to catch each other with water guns, nerf darts and other nefarious implements of fake murder at this time. It's not related to the game.

[Cuthillius]

Hello all.

Just powered through the last ten pages (36+ hours). Not really sure why there aren't competing wagons at the moment. I don't like this.

No. Not taking any of that. To me the fact that the wagons are stagnant and that people are talking a lot about how it's just these two or now but not doing anything makes me think that people don't want Stork to get lynched. He's getting lynched.