Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I want to lynch Murska as my top priority today.

I am willing to lynch Cuthillius.

Novice is an awesome addition to this board, but I didn't see him actually do anything with the software trick he pulled out of his magic bag. I would lynch him because of that.

If none of those are acceptable, I will lynch atheotes with you. But I think we have a greater chance of getting the necessary votes on the others.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, Novice is my main competitor in the votes right now, so I'll probably be on him EoD if an atheotes counterwagon doesn't materialize.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm about to settle in for the night with my wife, however I can be back here just before bed to change my vote if need be. That's not a ton of time.

Note that a bunch of the people I think are town are completely unwilling to even vote together. That's why I'm about to start cutting deals.

[Askthepizzaguy]

FTR Al Sipsclar going nowhere doesn't fully clear him, and the pass I gave him for not seeing him go anywhere is temporary and should be highly mitigated by the fact that the best counter to my role is a ninja or a godfather type role. Or simply a scum who didn't go anywhere.

I'm only holding on to him as a mild town read because it's the only piece of viable info I even have remaining. If people think he's scum they should push him regardless.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Compromise on my end:

If I'm in the lead for the lynch, or if the outcome is in doubt, I will reveal my actions with one minute before EoD.

If I survive the lynch, I will reveal my actions one minute (or close enough) before the end of the night phase.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ novice

Would you follow through with your claimed suspicions and lynch Al Sipsclar today?

[novice]

@ novice

Would you follow through with your claimed suspicions and lynch Al Sipsclar today?

It's a workable compromise, but why should I have to compromise? Why are you against a GH lynch?
Is Monty one of your town reads?

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's a workable compromise, but why should I have to compromise? Why are you against a GH lynch?
Is Monty one of your town reads?

I'm against the GH lynch because I believe a jailkeeper fits into the setup with a tracker and vig and masons. If Reidquat can snag his jailkeeper powers, that's even better.

I also read the tea leaves. It seems that every person I suspect is dead set against doing anything productive today and instead preferred to hold GH and I hostage over the claims, which is fine, but they utterly refuse to use the time to question anyone else, including the people they suspect. And that's beyond lazy. It's scummy. It's scummy and I intend to lynch each person who did it. Period.

If you bother to vote with me, you're betting that I'm correct about Murska and Cuth, and the game ends before I get to you, but I'll be dead before that happens anyway.

That's why all this stalling I see from people is markedly more and more scummy. I will be unable to voice my objections to this later, so I'm going on record right now. The persons in question, GH and myself, will be resolved shortly, yet it's just being used as an excuse to do no work.

Your reluctance to help me on any of my suspects only makes it worse. But that's not my only issue with you.

Again, you made your rainbow posts and you used your vote collector, but you didn't do anything with either one. You didn't show your work, anyway. You arrived at a list of suspects I largely disagree with and for no explanation arbitrarily put one of them on your most suspected part of your unwilling to lynch list, today, which to me is a crucial round of the game.

If you claim to find Al Sips a suspect but make no effort to push there, I find that to be distancing, not real suspicion. Especially since no one else is really pushing him as a suspect. That just reads to be to be the easy to get away with safe distancing tactic.

If you're not asking your suspects any questions, if you're not asking others to vote for them, then you aren't trying to solve the game for town, you're just trying to disconnect yourself from your mafia buddies.

If that's not the case, then help me lynch Murska. Or Cuth. Or even Al, if you actually find him scummy. Why are you unwilling to push these people? You never explained why Murska is so high on your list.

[Murska]

Nobody ever explained why I am where I am on their lists.

I really don't think GH is going to be able to convince me he's not scum at this point, and since the EoD is at like five in the morning and I'm definitely not going to be around, I don't really want to switch my vote around to less scummy people.

[novice]

You never explained why Murska is so high on your list.

Murska is high on my town list because of mindmeld.

[novice]

I'm against the GH lynch because I believe a jailkeeper fits into the setup with a tracker and vig and masons. If Reidquat can snag his jailkeeper powers, that's even better.

Ok.

I also read the tea leaves. It seems that every person I suspect is dead set against doing anything productive today and instead preferred to hold GH and I hostage over the claims, which is fine, but they utterly refuse to use the time to question anyone else, including the people they suspect. And that's beyond lazy. It's scummy. It's scummy and I intend to lynch each person who did it. Period.

So you're saying that it's fine to hold GH hostage but not to lynch him? I mean, people can be scummily lazy, but they can't all be scum. Isn't resolving GH's role good for town in this situation?

Again, you made your rainbow posts and you used your vote collector, but you didn't do anything with either one. You didn't show your work, anyway. You arrived at a list of suspects I largely disagree with and for no explanation arbitrarily put one of them on your most suspected part of your unwilling to lynch list, today, which to me is a crucial round of the game.

My method is largely staring at the rainbow until a suspect list holistically appears. You mean Cuthilius was arbitrarily on the "not really willing to lynch" list? I had to draw the line somewhere. I mean, I had ten others on the same list. Convince me on Cuthilius then.

But I agree, it's a crucial round, and postponing the GH situation feels dangerous.

If you're not asking your suspects any questions, if you're not asking others to vote for them, then you aren't trying to solve the game for town, you're just trying to disconnect yourself from your mafia buddies.

This is just me whining, but a) your description is not accurate, and b) why do you hold me to a higher standard than the rest of the lazy scum?

[novice]

Novice is an awesome addition to this board, but I didn't see him actually do anything with the software trick he pulled out of his magic bag. I would lynch him because of that.

Thanks. You know how it is, or maybe you don't, making the tools is more fun than using them. I'll dig deeper at some point, hopefully.
Apparently you would not lynch me, for other reasons, since you're negotiating?

Speaking of disappointing hunting, it's too bad that Monty couldn't come to any clearer conclusions. Maybe he can use the information. And I know you asked for a list of vote changes, too.

[novice]

Vote: Al Sipsclar as a show of good faith.

I'll be up for another hour or two but not until deadline.
I'll need some convincing to not switch back to GH.

[novice]

Tally as of post 2103:

Lynch votes
3 votes: GeneralHankerchief (atheotes, Murska, Dp101)
3 votes: novice (Cuthillius, Choxorn, Askthepizzaguy)
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Pelican)
1 votes: Winston Hughes (Montmorency)
1 votes: atheotes (GeneralHankerchief)
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (novice)

Voting history:

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[El Barto]

*talking to myself clip*

You're on a different timezone! Meatbags need shut-eye!

WH at 11 per day average total, but has very regular spikes in activity over and over, then absent. The spikes are at 34, 24, and 17, which is downward, yet still much more than the 9 per day average he started with. I also think all of this activity is above his baseline.

Why don't you check what those spikes in activity answer to?

I want more people to chime in on this issue.

As a robot, I cannot but help put on a very metallic voice and say ‘EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!’

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll need some convincing to not switch back to GH.

If he's your suspect, why do you need to be persuaded to keep your vote on him for longer than an hour?

What form of convincing do you need? Opinion that GH is town plus reasons?

By your own admission Al's posts have almost no content, so there's little case to be made beyond that and his vote record. Why is that insufficient?

If you're looking for someone else to make a case on your suspect, it's not going to happen on the .org in 1 hour.

Level with me. What is the vote supposed to prove? It just looks like it is for show to me.

[novice]

If he's your suspect, why do you need to be persuaded to keep your vote on him for longer than an hour?

What form of convincing do you need? Opinion that GH is town plus reasons?

Al is a default lynch. I'd need convincing that GH is a bad lynch.