Brexit Thread

[Greyblades]

You do know, don't you, that the most multi-ethnic area of Britain, London, was strongly pro-Remain. Around 60% Remain.

Who knew the pro immigrant choice would ge the immigrant votes? I refer to the Europhiles who buy into the ideology and supported letting the immigrants in with no regard for effect in the first place, the ones who are inhabiting the conspicuously non multi ethnic areas of britain.

[Pannonian]

Because the EU is how they got there, duh, same reason mexican immigrants vote democrat in the states. I refer to the Europhiles who buy into the ideology and supported inviting the immigrants in in the first place.

Bwahaha. First you criticise the Europhiles for only being pro-EU because they don't have to come face to face with immigrants, Then you explain away the multi-ethnic London by saying that, of course immigrants would vote for the EU because that's why they're here. I'm not quite sure how the EU made it easier for Caribbeans and Asians to enter the UK, but no doubt you can enlighten me.

[Greyblades]

Bwahaha. First you criticise the Europhiles for only being pro-EU because they don't have to come face to face with immigrants, Then you explain away the multi-ethnic London by saying that, of course immigrants would vote for the EU because that's why they're here. I'm not quite sure how the EU made it easier for Caribbeans and Asians to enter the UK, but no doubt you can enlighten me.

Multi ethnic being 60% white. How many carribbean and pakistanis do you think actually live or even visit the rich neigbourhoods?

[Legs]

Multi ethnic being 60% white. How many carribbean and pakistanis do you think actually live or even visit the rich neigbourhoods?

What is the rich part of town?

[Greyblades]

Kensington, Chelsea, Knightsbridge, places immigrants rarely can afford, basically. That's the crux of the issue; Europhillia is the fad of the upper and middle class who are insulated from the downsides of immigration; it's not thier jobs being taken by unskilled labour nor thier neighbourhoods being degraded and ruined by new unassimilating tenants

That lack of perspective detaches them from the mood of the working class who do have to witness a downside they didnt ask for.

[Legs]

Kensington, Chelsea, Knightsbridge, places immigrants rarely can afford, basically. That's the crux of the issue; Europhillia is the fad of the upper and middle class who are insulated from the downsides of immigration; it's not thier jobs being taken by unskilled labour nor thier neighbourhoods being degraded and ruined by new unassimilating tenants

That lack of perspective detaches them from the mood of the working class who do have to witness a downside they didnt ask for.

Have you ever been to those boroughs do you know many people living there?
Come to think of it, have you ever been to London???????

[Pannonian]

Multi ethnic being 60% white. How many carribbean and pakistanis do you think actually live or even visit the rich neigbourhoods?

Among the less white boroughs that I know of, Newham, Tower Hamlets, Redbridge and Waltham Forest all voted Remain. But then you've already got your argument ready: the EU is where the immigrants come from, so naturally they voted Remain. Actually, checking the figures further, the 10 least white boroughs all voted Remain. The least white borough that voted Leave was Barking and Dagenham, which is 14th on the list. The whitest borough in London also voted Leave, as did the 4th whitest borough. So the actual figures, as opposed to your imagined theory, suggests that the more multi-ethnic a borough is, the more Europhilic it is.

BTW, you must be one of the very few who reckons that 40% non-white is not multi-ethnic. The national figure is 12.8%.

[Legs]

Among the less white boroughs that I know of, Newham, Tower Hamlets, Redbridge and Waltham Forest all voted Remain. But then you've already got your argument ready: the EU is where the immigrants come from, so naturally they voted Remain. Actually, checking the figures further, the 10 least white boroughs all voted Remain. The least white borough that voted Leave was Barking and Dagenham, which is 14th on the list. The whitest borough in London also voted Leave, as did the 4th whitest borough. So the actual figures, as opposed to your imagined theory, suggests that the more multi-ethnic a borough is, the more Europhilic it is.

BTW, you must be one of the very few who reckons that 40% non-white is not multi-ethnic. The national figure is 12.8%.

When more than 20% of the "whites" are not British where does that leave his multi ethnic theory?

[Greyblades]

Among the less white boroughs that I know of, Newham, Tower Hamlets, Redbridge and Waltham Forest all voted Remain. But then you've already got your argument ready: the EU is where the immigrants come from, so naturally they voted Remain. Actually, checking the figures further, the 10 least white boroughs all voted Remain. The least white borough that voted Leave was Barking and Dagenham, which is 14th on the list. The whitest borough in London also voted Leave, as did the 4th whitest borough. So the actual figures, as opposed to your imagined theory, suggests that the more multi-ethnic a borough is, the more Europhilic it is.

1st whitest borough is havering, which is one of the cheapest to live in, IE poorest, same with 4th, bexely. Newham Tower Hamlets, Redbridge and Waltham Forest, also poor but with a non white majority voted remain.
Third whitest, bromley, is as poor as redbridge and voted remain by a very narrow margin, 6th largest sutton, poor, voted leave, Greenwich Poor 68% white, remain won by <10%, Hounslow same as greenwich with 51.4% white, Hillingdon, poor, white, voted leave, Barking and Dagenham, poor, white, voted leave,

Second whitest richmond on thames was pricier to live in than the previous examples by a half and voted remain, Wandsworth, Waltham Forest, was same as richmond, Kensington a very rich, very white neighbourhood voted remain by large degree, same with Islington, Hammersmith & Fulham, Camden, Hackney, Merton, Lambeth, Barnet, Westminster, Southwark, Lewisham, Ealing, Haringey and Tower Hamlets.

The trend is clear, prices high vote remain wins, prices low, vote leave gains ground and the outliers to this include all the poor minorty white boroughs.

BTW, you must be one of the very few who reckons that 40% non-white is not multi-ethnic. The national figure is 12.8%.

Until an area gets below 50% in any one demographic, to say it is multi anything is giving too much credit to the minority's presence.

Have you ever been to those boroughs do you know many people living there?
Come to think of it, have you ever been to London???????

I recently spent 3 years attending university in london whose side course in theatre included visiting areas of the city of varying levels of well-to-do at different hours in the day and night, I have seen my share of london's grime and grandure.

When more than 20% of the "whites" are not British where does that leave his multi ethnic theory?

Non british include american, new zealand, australian and various other anglo offshoots which I count among what can be called the british ethnicity.

[Legs]

1st whitest borough is havering, which is one of the cheapest to live in, IE poorest, same with 4th, bexely. Newham Tower Hamlets, Redbridge and Waltham Forest, also poor but with a non white majority voted remain.
Third whitest, bromley, is as poor as redbridge and voted remain by a very narrow margin, 6th largest sutton, poor, voted leave, Greenwich Poor 68% white, remain won by <10%, Hounslow same as greenwich with 51.4% white, Hillingdon, poor, white, voted leave, Barking and Dagenham, poor, white, voted leave,

Second whitest richmond on thames was pricier to live in than the previous examples by a half and voted remain, Wandsworth, Waltham Forest, was same as richmond, Kensington a very rich, very white neighbourhood voted remain by large degree, same with Islington, Hammersmith & Fulham, Camden, Hackney, Merton, Lambeth, Barnet, Westminster, Southwark, Lewisham, Ealing, Haringey and Tower Hamlets.

The trend is clear, prices high vote remain wins, prices low, vote leave gains ground and the outliers to this include all the poor minorty white boroughs.


Until an area gets below 50% in any one demographic, to say it is multi anything is giving too much credit to the minority's presence.

I recently spent 3 years attending university in london whose side course in theatre included visiting areas of the city of varying levels of well-to-do, I have seen plenty of london's grime and grandure.


Non british include american, new zealand, australian and various other anglo offshoots which I count among what can be called the british ethnicity.

Well where to start with that pile of crap?
You really don't know London at all. you call "the village" the 4th poorest
I find it hilarious that you define "poor" simply by average house price.
Could you tell me why a "white "neighbourhood" has so many ethnic social clubs? Or all the eastern churches, the temple, the mosque and the synagouge?
Until something gets below 50%????are you insane?
You have seen grime and grandure? You know that they exist in London on the same streets you can walk from one world to the next by crossing a road or turning a corner. You must know than that your simplistic attemt at justifying your views just doesn't fly.

Non british includes non british which you count as british? Is that because you are making no sense and feel the need to grasp at straws

[Montmorency]

I recently spent 3 years attending university in london whose side course in theatre included visiting areas of the city of varying levels of well-to-do at different hours in the day and night, I have seen my share of london's grime and grandure.

[Pannonian]

1st whitest borough is havering, which is one of the cheapest to live in, IE poorest, same with 4th, bexely. Newham Tower Hamlets, Redbridge and Waltham Forest, also poor but with a non white majority voted remain.
Third whitest, bromley, is as poor as redbridge and voted remain by a very narrow margin, 6th largest sutton, poor, voted leave, Greenwich Poor 68% white, remain won by <10%, Hounslow same as greenwich with 51.4% white, Hillingdon, poor, white, voted leave, Barking and Dagenham, poor, white, voted leave,

Second whitest richmond on thames was pricier to live in than the previous examples by a half and voted remain, Wandsworth, Waltham Forest, was same as richmond, Kensington a very rich, very white neighbourhood voted remain by large degree, same with Islington, Hammersmith & Fulham, Camden, Hackney, Merton, Lambeth, Barnet, Westminster, Southwark, Lewisham, Ealing, Haringey and Tower Hamlets.

The trend is clear, prices high vote remain wins, prices low, vote leave gains ground and the outliers to this include all the poor minorty white boroughs.


Until an area gets below 50% in any one demographic, to say it is multi anything is giving too much credit to the minority's presence.

I recently spent 3 years attending university in london whose side course in theatre included visiting areas of the city of varying levels of well-to-do at different hours in the day and night, I have seen my share of london's grime and grandure.


Non british include american, new zealand, australian and various other anglo offshoots which I count among what can be called the british ethnicity.

You really don't know anything if you think Havering is poor.

[Gilrandir]

We're currently in the uncertainty period. That period will begin to end with the triggering of article 50. The certainty period begins when the deadline invoked by article 50 ends.

I have an impression that the current government are trying to procrastinate and prevaricate hoping that somehow people will forget about the referendum and everything will be as it used to.

[Greyblades]

You really don't know anything if you think Havering is poor.

Romford's an unswept hole in the ground dotted with rusting factories and decaying offices choked with congested roads and plaugued by homicidal traffic light sequencers. The rest of havering must be a dream land if it's supposed to shake off romford's shell.