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    Quote Originally Posted by Showtime View Post
    For a person claiming I have nothing to say, you have nothing to say here.

    It's funny that Fragony can say what he likes but an opposing view of the same tone is seen differently. That's all I'm saying.
    Fragony is a far right . He admits he is one though, which is a level of self awareness that eludes you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Fragony is a far right . He admits he is one though, which is a level of self awareness that eludes you.
    Depends on what I am supposed to admit, I don't like the islam and the EU no, that that is seen as rightwing is not up to me. I don't see that as being wrong, if it's seen as that I can't deny it because I look at it that way but that's just definitians that outstayed it's welcome. I am extremily moderate really

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Depends on what I am supposed to admit, I don't like the islam and the EU no, that that is seen as rightwing is not up to me. I don't see that as being wrong, if it's seen as that I can't deny it because I look at it that way but that's just definitians that outstayed it's welcome. I am extremily moderate really
    Define "don't like the Islam", I'd say I don't like islam either and yet we keep arguing about it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Define "don't like the Islam", I'd say I don't like islam either and yet we keep arguing about it...
    There were also moderate nazi's, doesn't make the nazi-ideoligy very nice no? I got no problem putting them both in the same comfort zone. Do you have a good reason for me not doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    There were also moderate nazi's, doesn't make the nazi-ideoligy very nice no? I got no problem putting them both in the same comfort zone. Do you have a good reason for me not doing that.
    Do you blame yourself for the massacres in the East Indies because you call yourself a dutchman? Have you apologized yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Do you blame yourself for the massacres in the East Indies because you call yourself a dutchman? Have you apologized yet?
    Nothing to see here move along. I am glad there are still people who see islam for what it is. It's not just a religion, it's a political movement that is as welcome as the inquisition, especially for your ordinary muslim who is terrified of these guys. Islamapoligists is the second worst thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Nothing to see here move along. I am glad there are still people who see islam for what it is. It's not just a religion, it's a political movement that is as welcome as the inquisition, especially for your ordinary muslim who is terrified of these guys. Islamapoligists is the second worst thing
    I guess if I copy paste that entire post into the forum search, I get about 500 posts that are exactly the same and are completely irrelevant regarding the post quoted above them as well. Sometimes I might as well think of you as a bot that repeats the same line over and over if it does not understand the question.

    Can you at least explain why a moderate follower of islam is not the same as a muslim to you or why do you put the former "in the same comfort zone" and say the latter wants nothing to do with Islam? I shall ignore that no muslima would probably say she has nothing to do with Islam for the sake of exploring your seemingly schizophrenic argumentation.

    The only way I can make sense of it is that you're saying moderate followers of islam are muslims and want nothing to do with the political islam but because it's more comfortable for you, you'd rather stow them away with murderous islamists far away from you. In that case your argument would make sense, you'd just come across like a pretty big butthole despite all your claims that you have such a big heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Define "don't like the Islam", I'd say I don't like islam either and yet we keep arguing about it...
    He is not anti-Islam really. Much of what he abhors about Islam are those elements that are, in many ways, cultural carry-overs from pre-Islamic Arabian culture. That is where we get the women as property, cover them or they are whores for you to use as you please etc. stuff that Frag's consistently derides.

    I think he would actually be supportive of Suffism or even of the Baha'i (though Bahaists claim separate religious status even though their originators were Shiites.
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    He is not anti-Islam really. Much of what he abhors about Islam are those elements that are, in many ways, cultural carry-overs from pre-Islamic Arabian culture. That is where we get the women as property, cover them or they are whores for you to use as you please etc. stuff that Frag's consistently derides.

    I think he would actually be supportive of Suffism or even of the Baha'i (though Bahaists claim separate religious status even though their originators were Shiites.
    That's what I usually think, but then he says things like

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    There were also moderate nazi's, doesn't make the nazi-ideoligy very nice no? I got no problem putting them both in the same comfort zone. Do you have a good reason for me not doing that.
    Which as I read it implies that he treats moderate muslims and extremist ones in the same way.
    And when I ask what it means exactly, I never get an explanation apparently, just repetitions or him saying that he will continue to repeat said repetitions.
    What is the distinction good for if he basically says he wants them treated the same way anyway?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    He is not anti-Islam really. Much of what he abhors about Islam are those elements that are, in many ways, cultural carry-overs from pre-Islamic Arabian culture. That is where we get the women as property, cover them or they are whores for you to use as you please etc. stuff that Frag's consistently derides.

    I think he would actually be supportive of Suffism or even of the Baha'i (though Bahaists claim separate religious status even though their originators were Shiites.
    t 'not anti-muslim' would be better

    I kinda like women as they are. But I have much more objections, especially against the multicultural left, can I please call them 'usefull infidels'. I am not afraid of the islam as they are to stupid to herd their goats and somehow end up here. It are leftist intelectuals I fear. Believe me or not my mind is much sharper than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    t 'not anti-muslim' would be better

    I kinda like women as they are. But I have much more objections, especially against the multicultural left, can I please call them 'usefull infidels'. I am not afraid of the islam as they are to stupid to herd their goats and somehow end up here. It are leftist intelectuals I fear. Believe me or not my mind is much sharper than you think.
    You are sometimes in consistent in how your express yourself on these threads. I never know how much of that is the result of: a) inconsistent thinking, b) operating in your second (third?) language, or c) adult beverages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    You are sometimes in consistent in how your express yourself on these threads. I never know how much of that is the result of: a) inconsistent thinking, b) operating in your second (third?) language, or c) adult beverages.
    Inconsistent operating in second (third?) adult beverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    You are sometimes in consistent in how your express yourself on these threads. I never know how much of that is the result of: a) inconsistent thinking, b) operating in your second (third?) language, or c) adult beverages.
    It's very simple, a muslim is just someone who was born muslim, they celerbrate ramadan and that's about it. You mentioned sufi's, that's more of a spiritual thing that goes back a long time, they share a word for god nothing more it's an acient religion. I don't bring up the parralel society that is being created just for fun. They don't even deny it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Depends on what I am supposed to admit, I don't like the islam and the EU no, that that is seen as rightwing is not up to me. I don't see that as being wrong, if it's seen as that I can't deny it because I look at it that way but that's just definitians that outstayed it's welcome. I am extremily moderate really
    cultural conservative; social moderate/liberal; foreign policy ?; military/use of force?
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