Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

[Winston Hughes]

I just don't believe you can control yourself that finely, so as not to make mistakes. God knows I can't. Again, it's not the vote itself. That's Zack's reasoning, not mine.

I'll always make plenty of mistakes, but I'm too careful as scum to do something that obvious, and then compound it by keeping the focus there.

If you think I'm trying to "justify a scumread" you should probably be voting me rather than Al Sips. You can add that to the list of things you've said that feel wrong to me.

Why does this feel wrong?

Were you not justifying a scumread on me?

[Renata]

I'll always make plenty of mistakes, but I'm too careful as scum to do something that obvious, and then compound it by keeping the focus there.



Why does this feel wrong?

Were you not justifying a scumread on me?

I HAVE a scumread on you. To say I'm trying to justify it is to say I'm making it up; that is, I'm scum. You don't believe that. I think you put it that way so that others would.

[Winston Hughes]

I HAVE a scumread on you. To say I'm trying to justify it is to say I'm making it up; that is, I'm scum. You don't believe that. I think you put it that way so that others would.

Maybe there are different definitions, but 'justify' doesn't imply dishonesty afaik.

Before Zack voted you and you responded in a way I found scummy, my reaction was going to be precisely nothing. How do you read that.

Scummy, obvs.

[Arakhor]

Unless there's shenanigans already, I'm voting for Csargo, not Montmorency (hence Csargo's OMGUS vote and our responses to said vote).

GH, as where my head's at, it's finding another 80 posts in six hours, so a little behind the times is where I am!

Please don't confuse my ignorance for hedging. They may look similar, but I'm fairly slow to form conclusions in these games (wrong ones, usually, but still).

[Jabbz]

Unless there's shenanigans already, I'm voting for Csargo, not Montmorency (hence Csargo's OMGUS vote and our responses to said vote).

Error noted, I placed atheote's vote on the line for you. Will go back and edit/correct vote post.

Everyone please feel free to point out if I miss or mis-attribute a vote on your part.

[Montmorency]

Haven't been up-to-date since morning. Will catch up later. I know there are only 7 hours till EoD, but I'm not really feeling it today.

[Jabbz]

EOD is still 19 hours away. 1200h PST (2000h UTC/GMT)

[Renata]

Maybe there are different definitions, but 'justify' doesn't imply dishonesty afaik.



Scummy, obvs.

Argh.

vote: Al Sipsclar

I can't decide right now if you (Winston) are a you problem or a me problem. I do believe that Al Sipsclar promise to catch up on a thread that at that point doesn't need catching up on (it was like 20 posts deep if that), followed by nothing, is >rand scum.

[Visor]

Argh.

vote: Al Sipsclar

I can't decide right now if you (Winston) are a you problem or a me problem. I do believe that Al Sipsclar promise to catch up on a thread that at that point doesn't need catching up on (it was like 20 posts deep if that), followed by nothing, is >rand scum.

I don't mind this vote actually

Vote: Al Sipsclar

[Zack]

Dear God,

If you are real please smite the city of Boston from the face of the earth.

Thanks,

Zack

[Csargo]

Dear God,

If you are real please smite the city of Boston from the face of the earth.

Thanks,

Zack

Brady's got rings for all his fingers now...

[Zack]

and also it's suburb foxborough

thanks god

[Visor]

vote: Al sipsclar

Shall we test this straight away?

Al Sipsclar

Argh.

vote: Al Sipsclar

I can't decide right now if you (Winston) are a you problem or a me problem. I do believe that Al Sipsclar promise to catch up on a thread that at that point doesn't need catching up on (it was like 20 posts deep if that), followed by nothing, is >rand scum.

Renata, I really, really disagree with your continued pushing of winston. It looks exactly like mafia pushing a slightly odd townie, and I would have expected that town!you would have found something else by now.

I agree you about disliking DP's vote. I also think though that it could also be as scum defending someone who is town and buddying up. It ties into DP's decision that Winston is obvtown, which again I don't think is obvious. In either case, I find his reactions to be suspicious too.

DP101

I didn't know there was a lynchproof spell, it wasn't among my options.



I don't like this post at all, it sounds like what a scum would say if they wanted to defend a scumbuddy and go after the one attacking them. What do you mean, would have found something else by now? It's been a few pages, and it's still day 1, there's not much to go on.

Vote: Dp101



Well, only for one hand, he can still get more for his other hand, can't he (oh dear god, please no)

Wish you could quote more than whatever stupid amount this is.

Quoted a DP interaction here that is pretty good with obvious caveat that they decided to bus hard immediately D1.

Renata/Choxorn come away looking good here. Possible that Lewwyn is overexplaining his vote on DP here.

Winston's post on Al just noting for now.

[Lewwyn]

Argh.

vote: Al Sipsclar

I can't decide right now if you (Winston) are a you problem or a me problem. I do believe that Al Sipsclar promise to catch up on a thread that at that point doesn't need catching up on (it was like 20 posts deep if that), followed by nothing, is >rand scum.

Visor says he likes this vote.

I like the reasoning, but I don't like the timing. Feels like trying to disengage from a dangerous situation.

[Renata]

Some more Visor-related comments. I'm losing my concentration again, so I'll just let people look through them and draw their own conclusions from here on out.

Zack, Renata, Montmorency all seem townie to me. Visor is quieter than normal, but it is the weekend so who knows. GH is a possibility sort of up in the air for me, but it's day one.

Top towns and scums, no particular order:

Towns:

Zack
Renata
Csargo
Snerk
Renata

Zack and Snerk on tone, Csargo is a soul read, Renata's listed twice because she's that townie to me.

Scums
Visor
atheotes
Winston
Arakhor

Visor and atheotes from the interaction I highlighted earlier, atheotes a bit stronger of a read hence my vote. Haven't liked Winston's thread presence so far, particularly this tidbit:



Seems twiggy and a go-to defense as mafia in my experience.

Arakhor because his non-socializing posts have been super hedge-y.

I remember in Masque of Death Winston was fairly windy throughout the game, but was also innocent. A quiet Winston who's not also absent would be somewhat weird to me.

I'd consider voting for Al too, based on the strength of his single post, but Day One seems rather too early for a policy lynch. It just seems too scummy, as it were.

As for Visor/Atheotes, Visor frequently changes his mind and chats up the thread a lot, but often he's on to something at the same time.

[Jabbz]

All updated spellbooks have been sent out. If I missed you, please PM me.