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Figured I kinda missed you lot too much so I'm in again
Re: French Presidential Election
No I'm not.
Figured I kinda missed you lot too much so I'm in again
Re: French Presidential Election
"Genocide? Who said that? Macron?" Might be wrong but "Crimes against Humanity" was coined to describe in Judicial Term the Extermination campaign of the entire Jews (and Tziganes) communities, so a genocide.
"The first military reports about deep Algeria noted a school in every village and a quite high litteracy rate among adult males" This is interesting: Do you have a reference for this (book not internet)?
Last edited by Brenus; 02-23-2017 at 08:08.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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Re: French Presidential Election
First the UK exited the EU, then Trump won elections in America. Now Fragony is back and Brenus learnt to use the Reply button. Where is the world going? What's next? Putin will stop being a fascist?
Oh, thank God. I was too hasty. Some things do remain the same.
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And what? Since the term was not coined at that times, does it mean there was no Armenian or Herero genocide?
We can debate about the quasi-genocidal aspects of french conquest of Algeria, but it's a matter for historians, not a topic to be thrown on today's french electoral arena. Uselessly poisonous in the sad ignorance everyone likes to keep on that issue.
Benjamin Stora ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Stora ) on France Culture one year ago, can't say better. I trust the man enough on the matter. May be able to find about it in my collection of the review "L'Histoire". But it spans 15 years.
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I thought you was a Geert Wilders fan, my mistake then.
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"Since the term was not coined at that times, does it mean there was no Armenian or Herero genocide?" I do not dispute the term of genocide, I think the term Crime against Humanity was inadequate...
Unfortunately, genocide was a system of conquest. Genghis Khan was good at it.
I discussed at long length about the culture of genocide with friends. South and Central America, Africa (see the Belgian Congo), etc... I was convinced by them that this culture lead to Hitler's final solution. A bit long to develop but that is the idea...
And I agree. It shouldn't be in the actual political debate. The war is over... No need to start it again...
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
Re: French Presidential Election
Unfettered warfare consists of:
- Defeat the opponent in the field.
- Defeat the last strongholds/holdouts.
- Kill or enslave the military-aged males.
- Kill the oldsters.
- Rape the conquered women of child-bearing age and make them nurture the generation that will dominate the territory for you.
Warfare which does not go to this level is a Western conceit.
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Re: French Presidential Election
So now Fillon is not stepping down after being formally placed under investigation, despite having said that he would step down if he were placed under formal investigation. Instead he's decided on a Trump-like "It's all a conspiracy!" line. The BBC news here in England are saying that Le Pen is the main beneficiary of this scandal, but I totally disagree: the danger with a second round where Fillon was opposing Le Pen would be that he's so far to the Right that voters on the Left wouldn't think it worth turning out to vote at all and the usual anti-fascist consensus would crumble... it would be like telling people over here the only way to keep out Paul Nuttall would be to vote for John Redwood. Macron will restore the consensus and win by about 60/40 unless of course, weird shit happens.
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Macron has not a chance to built a consensus. He is the guy who add few millions poor in France by his XIX century policy. He is a media construction and might win but building a consensus, no.
Le Pen doesn't dare to move or speak, as each time she said something either stupid either the complete contrary of what she said 2 days before.
Situation is volatile. We shall see...
I will not vote for Macron. I will not vote for any member of the former government... I will not bow to the usual blackmail Le Pen or else.
The Media and political Parties boosted Le Pen, they will deal with the result.
Last edited by Brenus; 03-01-2017 at 21:27.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
Re: French Presidential Election
Bad souvenirs 2002 vintage maybe?
"Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"
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This is how Le Pen might get elected.
But how bad would that be really? Is she a genuine Fascist, or did she just use her father's Fascist party to advance her own political vision?
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What about fighting nazis wherever and whenever you can?
It is not only the media or the parties that will have to deal with the result, I'm afraid.
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Thx.I thought you was a Geert Wilders fan, my mistake then.
Welcome back.
Won't deny I like him, Wilders can be incredibly hilarious in a 'what did he just say' kinda way, he can be extremily funny, much to the chagrin of others.
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