French Revolution Mafia [Concluded]

[Arakhor]

Due to the magic of isolating posts, a spell we recently lost as CFC:

There's nothing to be said about Barto. Two posts, one of which is a random vote and the other is apologising for not being here.

NAC hasn't posted in four days. One post was to vote for Manasi and the other was joking about it. Given that this is only my second game here, I know nothing about them and so can't venture an opinion about whether this is scummy or not. It's certainly not participating though.

Al I do know a little about as he's at CFC too, but he also has only two posts, one voting for BSmith and the other apologising for being busy. I certainly can't get a scum read off that, but I have known him to favour low activity, shall we say, when not strictly necessary.

Autolycus is often Lurky McLurkyson (and is thus difficult to read), but he did say that he was going to be busy. I would also strongly recommend not killing him off for the good of France.

[Zack]

in my experience NAC feels a compulsive need to solve as town

never seen him wolf i don't tnhink

[Arakhor]

Why are you just talking about his play and expressing no read whatsoever?

That's basically what I do. I'm really, really terrible at magically picking out reads from what people type, which is why I always come over super-awkwardly at the start and (usually) get better towards the end. Now, on balance, I think he's likely not to be a Royalist, but that's not saying an awful lot.

[Choxorn]

Host note:

Due to DST, the timer for Day 2 has been altered. As I am now in EDT as opposed to EST, it is possible that the phase will end an hour earlier than some of you were expecting it to.

Post 2 of this thread and all tallies going forth will carry the updated timer. The Night 1 writeup and previous tallies will NOT.

-edit- GMT-4 as opposed to GMT-5 for those so inclined.

So, to be clear, does it end at 12:00 PM in GMT -4 or 1:00 PM in GMT -4?

I was waiting for a better option. Recall how I nudged Renata to commit to a counterwagon. I would have gone with Csargo, but by 2 hours before EOD perhaps only an Arakhor CFD would have been possible, had I pushed hard. Also, I was hoping that my faction would show up in force (they didn't) to vote DP or Renata.

You didn't consider Manasi or Arakhor a better option, then?

I'm not really a fan of all this nudging of others you were doing, it sounds like what a Royalist might do if he wanted to subtly push others to save his scummates without getting his hands dirty, and it would have given you the option of waiting as long as you could to see if your vote would make a difference in saving Jabbz.

[Manasi]

That's basically what I do. I'm really, really terrible at magically picking out reads from what people type, which is why I always come over super-awkwardly at the start and (usually) get better towards the end. Now, on balance, I think he's likely not to be a Royalist, but that's not saying an awful lot.

ok.

[Manasi]

Ofc I wasn't an option I'm the most cleared person in the game.

[Choxorn]

Due to the magic of isolating posts, a spell we recently lost as CFC:

It's actually not gone, just moved- the Search Function can still search a thread for all posts by a user.

The thing that let us see how much all posters posted in a thread, though, that's gone as far as I can tell.

[Arakhor]

I don't know Seireikhaan from Adam (or Eve!), but they've only posted four times (the last of which was three days ago): a vote for NAC, some back-and-forth with Renata and then the successful vote on Jabbz. He's unlikely to be a Royalist, I feel, but he's also sadly absent of late.

Sooh had three votes on Snerk, Zack and Barto, as well as a comment on last night's activities, which apparently passed unnoticed, unlike mine. Other than that, she's said hardly anything, so, meh?

I don't have anything much on Lewwyn, but he says he's been ill. Not really a good time for many people right now, it seems!

[Dp101]

I wish that we had fewer lurkers. It just feels like all the wagons are on the inactive people (or less active people), and there are too many of them to sort through. Haven't seen anything yet that makes me want to change my vote however.

[Arakhor]

BSmith voted for Al and then for Manasi and confirmed his vote on Manasi as self-preservation. That's it. I don't know if anyone else can scum-read zero useful posts otherwise, but I certainly can't.

Atheotes, Choxorn and Csargo actually have a bunch of posts that can't be read straight off the iso-search, so that'll take longer. (They're also the only others below 20 posts.)

[Manasi]

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[Manasi]

wtf math please

[NotACop]

Going to do a quick catch up
on top of my head the following are unlikely to be scum:
manasi
zack
pizza

and likely others who voted on the jabbz wagon on d1, just because of lynch result

[Arakhor]

Atheotes had votes on Renata and Pizza early on, threw some shade at Montmorency (I believe that's the term), claimed that Lewwyn might be town and Barto scum, then disappeared for 3.5 days, because of course. Half the Convention is either ill, lurking or straight-up dead.

Going to do a quick catch up

A wild NAC appears! (I have never played Pokémon in my life.)

I wish that we had fewer lurkers. It just feels like all the wagons are on the inactive people (or less active people), and there are too many of them to sort through. Haven't seen anything yet that makes me want to change my vote however.

Well, you're the only one who can change your vote, so it seems a bit silly to complain and then not do that.

[Arakhor]

Csargo spent several posts on fluff and non-voting on Day 1, voted for Snerk for protecting Jabbz, discussed yesterday's voting a bit more, then voted for Autolycus and then NAC. I get a townish vibe from him, to be fair.

Choxorn joke-voted for Monstr, commented on ATPG being ATPG, then voted for Csargo and had a bunch of nonsense stuff. Then he had three good posts (556, 559 and 565), proving that he is still much better at this than me. I would like to think that Choxorn is town and, so far, it doesn't look like I'll be disappointed.

[Dp101]

Atheotes had votes on Renata and Pizza early on, threw some shade at Montmorency (I believe that's the term), claimed that Lewwyn might be town and Barto scum, then disappeared for 3.5 days, because of course. Half the Convention is either ill, lurking or straight-up dead.



A wild NAC appears! (I have never played Pokémon in my life.)



Well, you're the only one who can change your vote, so it seems a bit silly to complain and then not do that.

I'm annoyed not because I think lurker lynches are bad, but because... I dunno. I feel that in a game where the ordinary D1 mislynch went off, we would have a lot more options for trying to find scum by trying to figure out who caused the mislynch. However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

[Arakhor]

Going to do a quick catch up
on top of my head the following are unlikely to be scum:
manasi
zack
pizza

and likely others who voted on the jabbz wagon on d1, just because of lynch result

Wow. Safe reads are safe reads. I could have come up with that list (and that's not a compliment). That's all you could manage after four days away?

I don't know if that's lazy or scummy and I'd rather not see Autolycus just yet, so vote: NotACop.

[Choxorn]

I'm annoyed not because I think lurker lynches are bad, but because... I dunno. I feel that in a game where the ordinary D1 mislynch went off, we would have a lot more options for trying to find scum by trying to figure out who caused the mislynch. However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

You say that like lynching a scum day 1 and clearing a bunch of townies is a bad thing.

[Arakhor]

However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

It does and I agree with you, especially in a game with attrition as high as it is right now. All I can say is that I wasn't really participating and I should have been, so I've been making up for it now.

[Arakhor]

You say that like lynching a scum day 1 and clearing a bunch of townies is a bad thing.

Well, it is in as much as people often get less focussed and take their collective eye off the ball. Killing scum is always good, of course, but lots of cleared townies can sometimes lead to sheeping, which is not good.

[Renata]

This is coming from a mechanical understanding, not my personal read. It's important he not die. @Renata

I see it.

[Arakhor]

I don't know if that's lazy or scummy and I'd rather not see Autolycus just yet, so vote: NotACop.

I should proofread my own posts more (and I say that as someone who should really know better).

"...I'd rather not see Autolycus die just yet..."

[Zack]

I'm annoyed not because I think lurker lynches are bad, but because... I dunno. I feel that in a game where the ordinary D1 mislynch went off, we would have a lot more options for trying to find scum by trying to figure out who caused the mislynch. However, when the D1 lynch is good, instead of a bunch of potential scumpoints all we get are some cleared townies, which means that there are few high-profile people to try and hunt, so we are forced to go for those who didn't push as hard, if that makes sense at all.

What do you mean? Two more wolves were killed last night. The first dead wolf always opens the game up, sooner the better.

[Csargo]

Tally as of post 626.

autolycus: 3 | Renata (518), Snerk (520), Csargo (593)
Arakhor: 2 | Dp101 (532), ATPG (577)
NotACop: 2 | Zack (544), Manasi (625)
Montmorency: 1 | autolycus (594)

Round ends:


Please note the change due to DST taking effect in the USA.

I voted NAC @ GeneralHankerchief.

[Choxorn]

"...I'd rather not see Autolycus die just yet..."

Because you don't think he's scummy, or because you don't want to lynch your faction mate?

[Dp101]

You say that like lynching a scum day 1 and clearing a bunch of townies is a bad thing.

I mean, it is nice indeed to have gotten so many mafia so far, but the problem is that it doesn't seem to really lead anywhere afterwards. When mafia die so early, combined with the faction setup, the amount of spew you can get out of them is minimal at best.

[NotACop]

Here's my note from doing a quick read of the game, including my vote for today. Could seem like I'm getting lynched today, which I'm not surprised by, as people know me as an active town player and a lurking scum player. But at least I have done something now lol.

townies:
Manasi
Zack
Askthepizzaguy

towards town:
Montmorency
Renata
atheotes
seireikhaan
Snerk
Choxorn

mildly towny:
Arakhor
Sooh
Lewwyn
Csargo

no feel either way(based on amount of town reads, I'm fine seeing lynch go here):
BSmith(was voted by Kagemusha D1 near some time before EOD, while he was a somewhat viable lynch - but his own vote on Manasi late D1 seemed reasoned in a suspicious way)
autolycus
Al Sipsclar
El Barto

towards scum:
Dp101 - dislike the #245 read on Jabbz "Jabbz feels really stilted but that's normal for him". Weird to notice someone seems stilted, wanting to address it, and then nullifying it by saying it's normal for someone. Why mention it at all then?
+ #281 "I want to call this scummy, but I know that Jabbz is perfectly capable of being this awkward as town." while he quotes a bad post from Jabbz where Jabbz unvotes and complains about actually having to find a real vote now.
It does look good that he voted Jabbz at last minutes of d1 EOD over Manasi, so that makes me hesitate a bit. But Jabbz seemed like someone struggling to look towny, so wouldn't be surprised of bussing.
So I'll vote Dp101. Not all sure on this, fwiw - but

dead scum:
Jabbz
Monstrdude
Kagemusha

dead town:
Fenn
Logic

[NotACop]

forgot ending my sentence on voting dp101.
should had said "but he's my best guess and also the more fun one(as his vote on Jabbz is counter intuitive for him being scum)."

[NotACop]

will format correctly
vote: Dp101

[NotACop]

I mean, it is nice indeed to have gotten so many mafia so far, but the problem is that it doesn't seem to really lead anywhere afterwards. When mafia die so early, combined with the faction setup, the amount of spew you can get out of them is minimal at best.

We'll see about that ;) at least, my vote on you is based on your own comments to a flipped scum