I cannot post my error log.

[QuintusSertorius]

I'm not sure if you've read the rest of my post, so I'm going to summarize it here for you (sorry if it was too long):

I do sometimes get a crash when a battle takes too long (typically when I micromanage too much) and I do attribute it to memory, but that's not unavoidable. If I load my save, I can replay it without crashes. I did notice that EBII is resource-hungry by its size on my disk and its loading times, but that's not a problem for me. By the way, I'm playing on the lowest video settings (except for wide-screen and the highest resolution because my computer has exactly that resolution) and with medium unit scale (I don't know if that setting makes a difference though (whether the mod overwrites it regardless of your chosen scale) or which one the EBII team recommends; the unit sizes still seem pretty large to me and armies take up a decent chunk of the battlefield.).
On the other hand, the situation I described in my original post was unavoidable. Whenever I was attacked by a relief force when besieging a settlement and won, the game crashed and each time it crashed right after loading the campaign screen.

First, I should remind that I'm running the Windows version of Medieval II on Linux using Wine, so things might affect me differently.
I would love to use windowed mode but it still crashes when I move the focus away (so it has no benefit to me) and it's actually buggy in windowed mode (and not otherwise) in my case. By the way, I cannot use the other launchers because I couldn't install Java 8 on Wine; so I edit ebii.cfg to toggle windowed mode. I also don't know if toggling borderless mode makes any difference when not in windowed mode but it's on (borderless_window = 1) by default.

Anyways, as I've said, I reinstalled the game (everything including Wine) and was able to capture Ankyra as Pergamon after being attacked by a relief force. So my problem seems to be solved but I also informed you about a glitch I've noticed relating to version 2.2i onwards (which you've announced ), so perhaps you might want to skim my rather long post and maybe answer the question at the end of it too :)

I didn't skim your post, most of the things you're highlighting aren't really relevant. Relief battles require more processor and memory, that's unavoidable.

You're running an old machine with insufficient memory and a 32-bit operating system. The vast majority of people playing EBII are doing so with newer 64-bit operating systems and 4GB+ of memory. One of the most common crashes come from M2TW's native inability to use more than 2GB of RAM, which is why I was recommending LAA or an equivalent, because it makes the game much more stable.

Furthermore, running in borderless, windowed mode is also much more stable, you shouldn't be switching the focus away for any reason if you want the game to be as stable as possible. Alt+Tab-ing in and out of the game causes crashes.

Running it on a weird OS just increases the level of complication. Sorry, but I don't know what to suggest, your setup is a long way outside what is usual. I run my game on 64-bit Win 7, using a retail version, not Steam.

[magnificent walrus]

I didn't skim your post, most of the things you're highlighting aren't really relevant. Relief battles require more processor and memory, that's unavoidable.

You're running an old machine with insufficient memory and a 32-bit operating system. The vast majority of people playing EBII are doing so with newer 64-bit operating systems and 4GB+ of memory. One of the most common crashes come from M2TW's native inability to use more than 2GB of RAM, which is why I was recommending LAA or an equivalent, because it makes the game much more stable.

Furthermore, running in borderless, windowed mode is also much more stable, you shouldn't be switching the focus away for any reason if you want the game to be as stable as possible. Alt+Tab-ing in and out of the game causes crashes.

Running it on a weird OS just increases the level of complication. Sorry, but I don't know what to suggest, your setup is a long way outside what is usual. I run my game on 64-bit Win 7, using a retail version, not Steam.

Before I reinstalled everything, it would crash right after loading the campaign screen after a battle against a relief force. If it were due to memory, the crash would occur when the memory's exceeded and it would most likely be during the battle. So, it's not due to memory but a condition triggered when you win against a relief force. Anyway, the issue isn't important because after I reinstalled it didn't occur again (So, the problem is neither with EB nor Wine.).

When I saw moving the focus away causes crashes, I stopped doing it, it's OK now. What I said was that running it on windowed mode introduces buggy behavior in my case, which's unfortunately hardly bearable. Also, I think that buggy behavior is actually indication of more instability of windowed mode on my installation. I'm happy for you that it normally increases stability but I think it's just the opposite in my case. Also, I don't get random crashes very often (at least not so far), so you don't have to worry about me :) Still, thank you very much.

When did Debian come to be called a weird distribution? :D Of course, I knew that Wine would have its limitations and said I would understand if you didn't support Wine and I thank you regardless. I also use the retail version and thought that using a machine near as old as the game would actually be advantageous :D Anyway, it's no matter.

Why do you think they are not relevant? I did ask a few unrelated minor questions but I thought that was common practice on these forums, would you rather I posted them separately? I think these were the minor questions I asked in this thread:
Should I message the original poster of the thread about running Europa Barbarorum II on Linux if my problems are specific to my installation?
What are the reform requirements? I don't understand them, the threads on The Org and Total War Center are different while many stickied threads on other topics are usually the same.
I registered here because your official forum is here, but sometimes Total War Center seem to have more information on a topic. So, which one should I check to get my information?
Is it possible to get the Pergamon reforms while staying as a Seleucid satrap?
I'm not asked to pay tribute to them as Pergamon. Is this because Pergamon already has a shakedown event or because of historical considerations?
I captured Ankyra very early, should I have fought some field battles in Galatia beforehand?
Does toggling borderless window mode make any difference when you're not using windowed mode?

By the way, I hope you saw that I've mentioned an unrelated glitch introduced with version 2.2i and hope it's an easy one to solve for you. If not, it's not a very big deal I guess. After I captured Ankyra, I just attacked the spawned half stack outside the settlement and won easily.
When I'd captured Ankyra (It was my first battle against the Galatians.) I got a message titled "Galatoi Defeated" (sorry if I misspelled). When I attacked this spawned half stack and won, I got the same message again. Is this a glitch or do you get the same message to inform you that your last victory would count towards getting the reforms?

[QuintusSertorius]

Before I reinstalled everything, it would crash right after loading the campaign screen after a battle against a relief force. If it were due to memory, the crash would occur when the memory's exceeded and it would most likely be during the battle. So, it's not due to memory but a condition triggered when you win against a relief force. Anyway, the issue isn't important because after I reinstalled it didn't occur again (So, the problem is neither with EB nor Wine.).

When I saw moving the focus away causes crashes, I stopped doing it, it's OK now. What I said was that running it on windowed mode introduces buggy behavior in my case, which's unfortunately hardly bearable. Also, I think that buggy behavior is actually indication of more instability of windowed mode on my installation. I'm happy for you that it normally increases stability but I think it's just the opposite in my case. Also, I don't get random crashes very often (at least not so far), so you don't have to worry about me :) Still, thank you very much.

When did Debian come to be called a weird distribution? :D Of course, I knew that Wine would have its limitations and said I would understand if you didn't support Wine and I thank you regardless. I also use the retail version and thought that using a machine near as old as the game would actually be advantageous :D Anyway, it's no matter.

Why do you think they are not relevant? I did ask a few unrelated minor questions but I thought that was common practice on these forums, would you rather I posted them separately? I think these were the minor questions I asked in this thread:
Should I message the original poster of the thread about running Europa Barbarorum II on Linux if my problems are specific to my installation?

I know nothing at all about Linux distros, so here is not the right place to ask about how to get it working with EBII.

The position remains that windowed and borderless window are the most stable; if there are specifics to your machine's build that make that not possible, then you'll have to put up with less stability.

What are the reform requirements? I don't understand them, the threads on The Org and Total War Center are different while many stickied threads on other topics are usually the same.
I registered here because your official forum is here, but sometimes Total War Center seem to have more information on a topic. So, which one should I check to get my information?
Is it possible to get the Pergamon reforms while staying as a Seleucid satrap?
I'm not asked to pay tribute to them as Pergamon. Is this because Pergamon already has a shakedown event or because of historical considerations?
I captured Ankyra very early, should I have fought some field battles in Galatia beforehand?
Does toggling borderless window mode make any difference when you're not using windowed mode?

The reform requirements here on The Org are very out of date, use the ones on TWC. TWC is more trafficked and has a lot more current discussion. I only mirror the patches here for completeness, and because sometimes it's more reliable for hosting the links.

As Pergamon, your relationship to the Seleukids doesn't have any impact on the reforms whatsoever. They don't ask for tribute, because their vassal relationship wasn't the same as Hayastan or Baktria. In the main the Seleukids were just happy to have a subservient ally in western Anatolia stopping some other power rising to the ascendancy.

Rushing to capture Ankyra is a bad idea; not only does it not stop Galatian attacks, it makes it harder for you to satisfy the reform conditions by fighting Galatian Rebels in Galatia.

I don't know if borderless window makes a difference on non-windowed mode.

By the way, I hope you saw that I've mentioned an unrelated glitch introduced with version 2.2i and hope it's an easy one to solve for you. If not, it's not a very big deal I guess. After I captured Ankyra, I just attacked the spawned half stack outside the settlement and won easily.
When I'd captured Ankyra (It was my first battle against the Galatians.) I got a message titled "Galatoi Defeated" (sorry if I misspelled). When I attacked this spawned half stack and won, I got the same message again. Is this a glitch or do you get the same message to inform you that your last victory would count towards getting the reforms?

That's not a glitch, that's a notification that you've had a qualifying battle for the reforms. They will pop up each time you have a qualifying one, until you've done enough. They stop when you no longer need victories against the Galatians.

[magnificent walrus]

I know nothing at all about Linux distros, so here is not the right place to ask about how to get it working with EBII.

The position remains that windowed and borderless window are the most stable; if there are specifics to your machine's build that make that not possible, then you'll have to put up with less stability.



The reform requirements here on The Org are very out of date, use the ones on TWC. TWC is more trafficked and has a lot more current discussion. I only mirror the patches here for completeness, and because sometimes it's more reliable for hosting the links.

As Pergamon, your relationship to the Seleukids doesn't have any impact on the reforms whatsoever. They don't ask for tribute, because their vassal relationship wasn't the same as Hayastan or Baktria. In the main the Seleukids were just happy to have a subservient ally in western Anatolia stopping some other power rising to the ascendancy.

Rushing to capture Ankyra is a bad idea; not only does it not stop Galatian attacks, it makes it harder for you to satisfy the reform conditions by fighting Galatian Rebels in Galatia.

I don't know if borderless window makes a difference on non-windowed mode.



That's not a glitch, that's a notification that you've had a qualifying battle for the reforms. They will pop up each time you have a qualifying one, until you've done enough. They stop when you no longer need victories against the Galatians.

Thanks a lot for also answering those. For the record, I asked if I could remain a Seleucid ally because the reform requires me to have two settlements (Sardis and Ipsos) that belong to them. I guess I do need to attack them to be called an "independent" kingdom.

Total War Center, for example, has a thread about faction governments, which is not a stickied thread here. I tried to view it, but the content seems to be in the form of images, which I cannot see. Do I need to register there just the view the images? I registered here to post my error log but I'm not sure which one I should use for general discussion now that you've said that you post mainly on Total War Center.

[QuintusSertorius]

The targets are deliberately designed both to create a core heartland, and ensure you can't get the reforms without potentially taking on both the Seleukids and Ptolemaioi.

Not sure about images on TWC; but you'll get much faster responses and a broader range of discussion posting there.