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    One thing to consider is that sarin doesn't have to be a binary agent. All sarin Syrian government surrendered was binary, but that doesn't mean that low grade sarin terrorists produce is binary also, in which case an explosion would disperse the gas with lethal effects.

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    One was looking for computer advice in the Tech forum recently. That one? Or Dariush? I don't think he identified as a Syrian, did he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    One thing to consider is that sarin doesn't have to be a binary agent. All sarin Syrian government surrendered was binary, but that doesn't mean that low grade sarin terrorists produce is binary also, in which case an explosion would disperse the gas with lethal effects.
    Sarin won't keep when combined, so in order for it to have been from a Rebel stockpile it would have needed to be awaiting imminent deployment.

    In order for the narrative to be as the Russian suggest.

    We have a resident Syrian?
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    One was looking for computer advice in the Tech forum recently. That one? Or Dariush? I don't think he identified as a Syrian, did he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    Sarin won't keep when combined, so in order for it to have been from a Rebel stockpile it would have needed to be awaiting imminent deployment.

    In order for the narrative to be as the Russian suggest.
    Actually, no. Even low grade sarin, made of impure precursors, will keep for a few weeks, but back when chemical weapons were a thing, a lot of nations kept sarin in unitary state, adding stabilizer chemicals, like tributylamine and diisopropylcarbodiimide. Nations with access to better technology kept it in binary state, because it was safer, but that required more complicated mechanism of deployment.

    Even US kept both unitary and binary sarin. In the preparation for the Gulf War, CIA wrote a report that concluded that "CIA ANALYSTS BELIEVE THAT THE SHELF LIFE PROBLEM WAS ONLY TEMPORARY AND THAT THE IRAQIS CAN NOW PRODUCE UNITARY AGENTS OF SUFFICIENT QUALITY BY ADDING A STABILIZER OR IMPROVING THE PRODUCTION PROCESS."

    Sarin used by terrorists is usually of low-grade, unitary kind (like in Tokyo terror attack) because they lack the expertise and technology to keep it binary and make effective firing mechanism. The unitary sarin has simple deployment - destroy the container and gas gets released.

    More properly our Assyrian in America.
    Well, he is really not a resident Syrian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    One was looking for computer advice in the Tech forum recently. That one? Or Dariush? I don't think he identified as a Syrian, did he?
    I believe Dariush is Iranian. And I'm pretty sure Leith has never posted in the Backroom.
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    The contortions and goalpost moving from the Putin bots...
    It never happened, it was all fake footage by the rebels, who are all terrorists!
    Disproven.
    It wasn't sarin, it was only chlorine!
    Disproven.
    If it was sarin, it was rebel sarin accidentally released by the bombing!
    Disproven.
    If sarin can't be released accidentally, rebels must be making their own sarin! They must have found a way to store it by means of adding a stabilising chemical, yes, that's it!
    When this is disproven too, no doubt they'll be blaming it on aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    The contortions and goalpost moving from the Putin bots...
    It never happened, it was all fake footage by the rebels, who are all terrorists!
    Disproven.
    It wasn't sarin, it was only chlorine!
    Disproven.
    If it was sarin, it was rebel sarin accidentally released by the bombing!
    Disproven.
    If sarin can't be released accidentally, rebels must be making their own sarin! They must have found a way to store it by means of adding a stabilising chemical, yes, that's it!
    When this is disproven too, no doubt they'll be blaming it on aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    The contortions and goalpost moving from the Putin bots...
    It never happened, it was all fake footage by the rebels, who are all terrorists!
    Disproven.
    It wasn't sarin, it was only chlorine!
    Disproven.
    If it was sarin, it was rebel sarin accidentally released by the bombing!
    Disproven.
    If sarin can't be released accidentally, rebels must be making their own sarin! They must have found a way to store it by means of adding a stabilising chemical, yes, that's it!
    When this is disproven too, no doubt they'll be blaming it on aliens.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack
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    ? YOU pretend that Sarin can be produce only by a State. Who produce Sarin in Tokyo's attack... A SECT!!!.
    So, come back with something better than a distraction, as funny it is, you are the one using the tactic...
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    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    The contortions and goalpost moving from the Putin bots...
    It never happened, it was all fake footage by the rebels, who are all terrorists!
    Disproven.
    It wasn't sarin, it was only chlorine!
    Disproven.
    If it was sarin, it was rebel sarin accidentally released by the bombing!
    Disproven.
    If sarin can't be released accidentally, rebels must be making their own sarin! They must have found a way to store it by means of adding a stabilising chemical, yes, that's it!
    When this is disproven too, no doubt they'll be blaming it on aliens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    The contortions and goalpost moving from the Putin bots...
    It isn't really news. The first time I saw this tactics employed at Crimea's annexation. Then it has been repeatedly used by the Kremlin the most notable (for the West) occurence being MH 17. As for representation of Ukrainian events for Russian (and Ukrainian) audience it is a must.
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    It's so cute you guys believe you are so perceptive to see through that all that bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    It's so cute you guys believe you are so perceptive to see through that all that bs.
    It is no less cute that you believe you are so perceptive you can discern us seeing through that all.
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