Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

[SeveringViper]

Correcting Unvote.

[Csargo]

How do you expect me to answer that question? :3

Please let other people answer for themselves first.

This is an odd reaction to Sooh's post. Given how you've pursued D1 so far. I'm unsure of what you're trying to accomplish, Sooh was adding content to the thread, even if the question wasn't directed towards her. So why?

[SeveringViper]

This is an odd reaction to Sooh's post. Given how you've pursued D1 so far. I'm unsure of what you're trying to accomplish, Sooh was adding content to the thread, even if the question wasn't directed towards her. So why?

Because when I ask someone a question, I want to see their answer unaffected and/or uninfluenced by someone else putting words in their mouth for them. Even if it's a more obvious answer/response, how they answer is important.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Those "pedantic arguments" were:
A. The few active players pursuing anything they could.
B. 99% me. What do you say?

Are you locking in the novice vote?

Not entirely you, but IIRC you are/were (please be "were") the only one who was part of both.

And nah, my novice vote's not locked in, round ends in 19 hours and I should be able to carve out enough time between now and then to get a more solid feel for things.

Sleep for now though.

[Montmorency]

Two word Mafia.

Tell me what you see.

[Csargo]

Because when I ask someone a question, I want to see their answer unaffected and/or uninfluenced by someone else putting words in their mouth for them. Even if it's a more obvious answer/response, how they answer is important.

How could Sooh's post effect novice's answer? I'm also unsure as to why you thought the question had value in the first place. I honestly don't understand the logic behind it. Feel like the answer would have to be some iteration of what he said, or else he'd look inconsistent. Are you always this antagonistic in games? Your posts give me that vibe, or am I delusional?

[Cuthillius]

Two word Mafia.

Tell me what you see.

You too? Already Novice. Oh well.

[Choxorn]

But I have absolutely no regrets even if it is a mislynch, because d1 is a c***shoot,

This...is disappointingly shallow itself. I think we've all well established that d1 is a c***shoot and there's little to work with, now do you have anything to add? What do you think of the others that talked?

Dude, it's okay, you can just say "crapshoot," we're not that strict about swear words.

[Cuthillius]

Dude, it's okay, you can just say "crapshoot," we're not that strict about swear words.

i was legitimately confused and thought that was something other than crapshoot just because it was censored at first lol

[Csargo]

Dude, it's okay, you can just say "crapshoot," we're not that strict about swear words.

Back in the olden days we were. The times when khaans changed their names every thousand posts. Those were stricter times...

[Montmorency]

You too? Already Novice. Oh well.

<3, OMG, let's meet up on IRC.

Unvote: novice; Vote: Severing Viper

[Montmorency]

Isn't "Champ" a Pokemon?

That would have been a proper disposable vote. Too late now though.

[SeveringViper]

How could Sooh's post effect novice's answer? I'm also unsure as to why you thought the question had value in the first place. I honestly don't understand the logic behind it. Feel like the answer would have to be some iteration of what he said, or else he'd look inconsistent. Are you always this antagonistic in games? Your posts give me that vibe, or am I delusional?

Because when you provide an answer for someone else, you provide them something to point to and draw from? Often when I ask someone something, I care as much about how they answer as what, if not more. And someone stepping in and providing an answer for them that can affect their response and ability to respond is bad.
Or put it this way: If my questioning/pressure could produce genuine results and that is hampered by someone intentionally or unintentionally coaching the one I'm asking how/what to answer, of course it's a problem, no?

As for what the point of the question was, I asked him that to hear about his voting habits, and to determine exactly what type of vote it was. Was he the type to decide a suspect early and/or was it a pressure vote? I felt his answer told me enough about that and moved on.

Dude, it's okay, you can just say "crapshoot," we're not that strict about swear words.

As long as there's someone in this game who's bothered by swears, I will censor them. That's a time-wasting issue I'd rather avoid entirely.

[Montmorency]

Because when you provide an answer for someone else, you provide them something to point to and draw from? Often when I ask someone something, I care as much about how they answer as what, if not more. And someone stepping in and providing an answer for them that can affect their response and ability to respond is bad.

What if this is the result we seek?

[SeveringViper]

Unvote: novice; Vote: Severing Viper

Is this a "disposable vote" of the sort you mention in your next post, are you declaring suspicion, or both?

[SeveringViper]

What if this is the result we seek?

If interfering with what I want to get out of the question and making me less sure of the results is really what you seek, hissssss.

[Csargo]

So you saw Sooh's post as influential to your question/novice? I disagree, but to each their own. Mostly concerned with the tone of it all after the fact, rather than the question itself anyways.

Also, for my own understanding mostly, what was the purposed of going after Logic? What value did you gain from that interaction/argument?

[Sooh]

I don't have a ton to add, except Csargo ???

I hope you'll have time to make some general reads on a few people to help me read you, Csargo.

Same goes for most tbh. Even if you're uncertain as heck about your reads and you probably will switch them around tomorrow, I'd really appreciate getting them before DL so I can use them to get a read on you. I'll get into and produce some sort of reads list when I'm home from work today.

[SeveringViper]

So you saw Sooh's post as influential to your question/novice? I disagree, but to each their own. Mostly concerned with the tone of it all after the fact, rather than the question itself anyways.

Also, for my own understanding mostly, what was the purposed of going after Logic? What value did you gain from that interaction/argument?

No, I took issue with the idea of answering for others, not her answer specifically (because it had nothing to do with the question, but that's a past matter).

I started pressuring him because I saw an apparent contradiction that wasn't answered, and I push apparent contradictions that aren't answered. What I got out of it was that he's someone that has trouble conveying exactly what he means and that approach wouldn't do any good with him. The discussion was otherwise alignment-neutral.




(On an unrelated note, day phases are 48 hours, and d1 started two days ago at about 12:30 PM EST, so it would end early this coming afternoon for me, but the phase end time is set for roughly 6 PM, meaning it would end then, so how much time is there-
SeveringViper hurt itself in its confusion!)

[Sooh]

6PM EST, so idk if that's a conversion you'll have to do or something.

3PM PST

11PM UK

midnight CET

[SeveringViper]

(On an unrelated note, day phases are 48 hours, and d1 started two days ago at about 12:30 PM EST, so it would end early this coming afternoon for me, but the phase end time is set for roughly 6 PM, meaning it would end then, so how much time is there-
SeveringViper hurt itself in its confusion!)

For the record, I'd assume the 6 PM time takes priority myself, I'm just complaining =)

[SeveringViper]

6PM EST, so idk if that's a conversion you'll have to do or something.

3PM PST

11PM UK

midnight CET

I'm in EST, so no conversions, just thought it was a little unclear.

[SeveringViper]

I'm in EST, so no conversions, just thought it was a little unclear.

Especially since I'd been operating under the assumption the phase would end next afternoon for me until GH mentioning otherwise made me check.

[Sooh]

I'm in EST, so no conversions, just thought it was a little unclear.

I think both because it started on a weekend, and because I know sometimes D1 phases are a bit longer on my home forum it's a slightly longer first day here.

[Csargo]

No, I took issue with the idea of answering for others, not her answer specifically (because it had nothing to do with the question, but that's a past matter).

I started pressuring him because I saw an apparent contradiction that wasn't answered, and I push apparent contradictions that aren't answered. What I got out of it was that he's someone that has trouble conveying exactly what he means and that approach wouldn't do any good with him. The discussion was otherwise alignment-neutral.




(On an unrelated note, day phases are 48 hours, and d1 started two days ago at about 12:30 PM EST, so it would end early this coming afternoon for me, but the phase end time is set for roughly 6 PM, meaning it would end then, so how much time is there-
SeveringViper hurt itself in its confusion!)

Okay, I think I understand what you're doing now. Thanks.

[Montmorency]

Viper is combination of novice, Zack, and Jabbz?

[SeveringViper]

Viper is combination of novice, Zack, and Jabbz?

I have no real overall idea what I'm doing and I'm poking at anything I think can produce even the slightest value to see what comes out, does that fit?

[SeveringViper]

I have no real overall idea what I'm doing and I'm poking at anything I think can produce even the slightest value to see what comes out, does that fit?

Assuming that was an open question.

[Csargo]

Viper is combination of novice, Zack, and Jabbz?

Maybe...

[Montmorency]

I yearn to rely on a stronger will.

I fear what I'm capable of in its absence.